Which fighters do you feel are historically overrated

[IronDanHamza]

There's a left uppercut on the inside about 35 seconds into the video. From 39 seconds to about 43 seconds....that looks like inside fighting to me. 2:05 to 2:08 seems like infighting.

In this gif he throws a compact hook at about as close a distance as you can get:



And here he closes from long range beautifully but then finishes from in close:


Maybe we should clarify what you mean by inside work, though. Do you mean things like shoulder bumps and maneuvering with the head?

Again he's clearly not inside there on either clip.

The first clip he's taking half steps back as his opponent is moving forward.

The second clip is also at mid range.

Everytime a fighter found there way inside on Lopez he's clearly uncomfortable and try's to make room for punches. Similarly to how Marquez would.

[KnockoutNed]

Which fighters do you feel are historically overrated and why?

Lennox Lewis and Marvin Hagler

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Harry Greb- Fought mediocre opposition and his claim to fame was beating Gene Tunney once and losing to him like 3 times after.

Mike Tyson- Wasn't very good after the first half, Terrible chin. All of his losses were by ko except for Holyfield II.

[IronDanHamza]

Harry Greb- Fought mediocre opposition and his claim to fame was beating Gene Tunney once and losing to him like 3 times after.

Mike Tyson- Wasn't very good after the first half, Terrible chin. All of his losses were by ko except for Holyfield II.

Woah, controversial view. Terrible oppostion? Elaborate.

How would you say Tyson's chin is terrible? Yeah he got KO'd quite a few times but he took some terrible beatings in all of those loss's before being stopped.

[sonnyboyx2]

Harry Greb- Fought mediocre opposition and his claim to fame was beating Gene Tunney once and losing to him like 3 times after.

Mike Tyson- Wasn't very good after the first half, Terrible chin. All of his losses were by ko except for Holyfield II.

Harry Greb fought more Hall of Fame fighters than almost any other fighter in history...

Mike Tyson had one of the greatest chin's in Heavyweight history. No fighter ever poleaxed Mike Tyson, there had to be a breaking down process go on first. Were Tyson would take sustained beating over the course of 6rds or more before he succumbed to the onslaught (Douglas & Holyfield).. his losses at the tail-end of his career was when addicted to anti-depressants, alcohol, ******* & cannabis. No fighter, not even Muhammad Ali could fight while addicted to Anti-depressants.

[SouthPawHitman]

*insert name of fighter I don't like*

He is like super overrated and sucks

[NChristo]

Harry Greb fought more Hall of Fame fighters than almost any other fighter in history...

More importantly he beat more Hall of Fame boxers then anybody else in history with McClarnin coming 2nd.
Greb is only ever based on his resume as he should be and is penalized by a lot of boxing writers and such for their not being any footage of him, his resume cannot be under stated though, ****ing amazing.

[billeau2]

More importantly he beat more Hall of Fame boxers then anybody else in history with McClarnin coming 2nd.
Greb is only ever based on his resume as he should be and is penalized by a lot of boxing writers and such for their not being any footage of him, his resume cannot be under stated though, ****ing amazing.

And yet....thats not even the most amazing thing about Greb. The man actually fought a substantial amount of his career with virtually one eye. He is also one of those guys that got a lot of props from his contemporaries.

[billeau2]

Harry Greb- Fought mediocre opposition and his claim to fame was beating Gene Tunney once and losing to him like 3 times after.

Mike Tyson- Wasn't very good after the first half, Terrible chin. All of his losses were by ko except for Holyfield II.

To be fair, how many other guys beat Tunney? and Grebb was not a heavyweight.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Harry Greb fought more Hall of Fame fighters than almost any other fighter in history...

Mike Tyson had one of the greatest chin's in Heavyweight history. No fighter ever poleaxed Mike Tyson, there had to be a breaking down process go on first. Were Tyson would take sustained beating over the course of 6rds or more before he succumbed to the onslaught (Douglas & Holyfield).. his losses at the tail-end of his career was when addicted to anti-depressants, alcohol, ******* & cannabis. No fighter, not even Muhammad Ali could fight while addicted to Anti-depressants.

The HoF Greb fought weren't that good. For that time, yes, they were the best of the best, but today they wouldn't compare.

Tyson being on drugs proves my point. Being a boxer isn't just a job, it's a way of life to be an ATG you can't be addicted to drugs, that's just excuses. I enjoy Tyson in his prime but he ruined his legacy and will always be overrated in my eyes for that. Tyson also lost to Buster Douglas who was past his prime and at the end of his career. Btw using cannabis doesn't affect your performance, Unless he had just smoked a blunt right before the fight it is irrelevant.