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  • #21
    Originally posted by SouthPawHitman View Post
    Like I said in an earlier post,I don't blame him.

    I know I've read in passing that he had abused women. I'll look for a link when I get home.

    Edit:The same applies to negative "achievements" outside of the ring: Should Mike Tyson be kicked out of toplists because he is a rapist? Should Clay/Ali be kicked out because he is a racist ("Cu Clux Clay")? Maybe you want to exclude Sonny Liston (gas station robbery) but want to leave Joe Louis (since it's "just" tax evasion)? Maybe you should exclude wife-beater Muhammad Ali? But maybe you want to leave Joe Frazier because his wife-beating arrest was "only" after his career?

    http://www.heavyweightblog.com/488/h...oxing-toplists
    Who are the wives that Ali supposedly "beat?" Show your sources and links. I know exactly what incident you are referring to and he wasn't "beating" his wife. So let's see what you have.


    I find it hilarious that you would accuse Ali of this and criticize his character with Carlos Monzon in your signature. You picked the wrong place to troll.
    Last edited by joseph5620; 06-14-2015, 02:42 PM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
      Who are the wives that Ali supposedly "beat?" Show your sources and links. I know exactly what incident you are referring to and he wasn't "beating" his wife. So let's see what you have.


      I find it hilarious that you would accuse Ali of this and criticize his character with Carlos Monzon in your signature. You picked the wrong place to troll.
      Read Post #9.

      I'm not criticizing Ali's character. This is boxing. I'm just not a fan of a lot of the things he said and did. Saying Wepner called him the n-word,he said a lot of bad things to Smokin Joe after Joe had loaned him money

      I'm not sure why you think I'm trolling.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by SouthPawHitman View Post
        Read Post #9.

        I'm not criticizing Ali's character. This is boxing. I'm just not a fan of a lot of the things he said and did. Saying Wepner called him the n-word,he said a lot of bad things to Smokin Joe after Joe had loaned him money

        I'm not sure why you think I'm trolling.
        How about the wife beating? Any chance you're going to post a link and sources for that?

        If you're not trolling this makes you look even worse.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
          How about the wife beating? Any chance you're going to post a link and sources for that?

          If you're not trolling this makes you look even worse.
          Which one?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by SouthPawHitman View Post
            Which one?

            Nice stall static. Provide the sources and links proving that Ali was a wife beater. It's a simple request which should be easy to find since you're implying that there are multiple stories. Let's see them.
            Last edited by joseph5620; 06-14-2015, 03:44 PM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by SouthPawHitman View Post
              Name calling is not necessary. You have a different opinion of Ali than I do,that's fine. This is forum we discuss things people are going to have different opinions.
              You are in no position to take the high road my friend.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by SouthPawHitman View Post
                Read Post #9.

                I'm not criticizing Ali's character. This is boxing. I'm just not a fan of a lot of the things he said and did. Saying Wepner called him the n-word,he said a lot of bad things to Smokin Joe after Joe had loaned him money

                I'm not sure why you think I'm trolling.
                When you make an accusation like you did CITE A SOURCE. I called you a troll right? well my proof is your idiocy, its right in front of people, so if people want to dispute it and say otherwise the source is evident. What gives you the right to call people things like this and then say "I will get around to providing proof"? What if I called you a pedofile and when you asked what my source was I said..."oh uhm yeah when I get home I will find a link." How would that sit with you? Please keep in mind I am using this as an example and not accusing you of ******ation...only of being a troll and an idiot.

                Oh and lets knock this out of the park shall we? What if when you said "hey whats up with the pedofile comment" I said "hey its bricklaying (or whatever you do) I understand." you see how ****** you sound now? if you don't you are hopeless.
                Last edited by billeau2; 06-14-2015, 03:57 PM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                  Nice stall static. Provide the sources and links proving that Ali was a wife beater. It's a simple request which should be easy to find since you're implying that there are multiple stories. Let's see them.
                  I posted it above.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                    You are in no position to take the high road my friend.
                    I always take the high road. You've done nothing but bash me in this thread. You've call me a pedophile and an ignoramus. I'm not sure why you harbor such hatred towards me but I will not stoop down and respond.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by SouthPawHitman View Post
                      I posted it above.
                      I just read your "proof" was that blog written by Elroy?

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq9MNX0nZQw

                      heres a link I posted regarding a story involving Tony Galenta and the great one (Jackie Gleason) now...maybe Gleason is lying to marciano, but all and all...especially given that the incident may have been humiliating to Gleason...he did consider himself a bit of a brawler and all...It stands as pretty good proof of the event described...this might be proof of a sort. What proof does a blog written by some opiniated indvidual have to do with proof that ali was a woman beater? can you find a person who says ali did this? can yu find a description of an incident? that would be a start.

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