Why have modern fighters not evolved to be better than SRR

[JAB5239]

Boxing isn't a former major sport, it's still a major sport, it does big numbers and makes boxers richer than ever. Again the business has changed, it moved to a PPV model, which means less eyes on the fights overall, but I don't see anyone paying 59.99 to watch a baseball game lol.

The overwhelming majority of professional boxers never get rich or even make enough to live comfortably on without another job.

[Willie Pep 229]

Boxing isn't a former major sport, it's still a major sport, it does big numbers and makes boxers richer than ever. Again the business has changed, it moved to a PPV model, which means less eyes on the fights overall, but I don't see anyone paying 59.99 to watch a baseball game lol.

You do understand, we do pay to watch baseball.

Baseball salaries are NOT met with gate receipts.

In the end we spend considerably more for baseball and football than we do for boxing.

It's built into the price on your box of Weathies.

Boxing is a fading sport. Its $59 big fight price tag is an exception and it's final overall receipts rival hockey at best. NSCAR is probably a wealthier sport.

Plus the big money ends up in the hands of the few; across the board, the sport is relatively poor.

[Lomadeaux]

You do understand, we do pay to watch baseball.

Baseball salaries are NOT met with gate receipts.

In the end we spend considerably more for baseball and football than we do for boxing.

It's built into the price on your box of Weathies.

Boxing is a fading sport. Its $59 big fight price tag is an exception and it's final overall receipts rival hockey at best. NSCAR is probably a wealthier sport.

Plus the big money ends up in the hands of the few; across the board, the sport is relatively poor.

Boxing will always be the pinnacle of sport. There's always a massive fight every decade that breaks records of all time. It just passes the eye test for anyone and everyone. The culture we have in America at least is what is causing issues overall. I believe it's coming back around and people are waking up though. It'll take a little while longer for these fighters to get out of the 'lose your 0' and your career is over syndrome. That's just some weird ****.

[Willow The Wisp]

- - Your golden evolution opportunity to inform us how the above is true.

Yes, the business part of the sport has changed as it has changed all sports, however Boxing is the only major sport that is now a former major sport, relegated to the backwaters of disorganization.

See the hamhanded way the biggest money fight in the history of boxing was handled that generated a hundred million $$$ worth of lawsuits post fight.

We agree on this top part. Every generation believes that it has invented everything. Boxing has improved like marble scupting has improved.

We disagree on boxing as a major sport, of course. The 60 year change that's being observed is simply that while boxing was once just about the Only major sport that didn't involve horses playing the athletes, it now shares the stage with a dozen others that have since become "Major". I could be wrong of course. Could you name half a dozen others that are bigger?

[I_Didn't_Hear_No_Bell]

You do understand, we do pay to watch baseball.

Baseball salaries are NOT met with gate receipts.

In the end we spend considerably more for baseball and football than we do for boxing.

It's built into the price on your box of Weathies.

Boxing is a fading sport. Its $59 big fight price tag is an exception and it's final overall receipts rival hockey at best. NSCAR is probably a wealthier sport.

Plus the big money ends up in the hands of the few; across the board, the sport is relatively poor.

The person on their couch does not pay 59.99 to watch a game on their tv, and never would

[I_Didn't_Hear_No_Bell]

The overwhelming majority of professional boxers never get rich or even make enough to live comfortably on without another job.

That's true, but I'm talking about boxers at the top of the sport. If you want to include all the professional leagues in Latin American countries and all around the world we could say most professional baseball players are broke too.

[JAB5239]

That's true, but I'm talking about boxers at the top of the sport. If you want to include all the professional leagues in Latin American countries and all around the world we could say most professional baseball players are broke too.

There is a very low percentage of boxers at the top of the sport in comparison to the NBA, MLB NHL and NFL. Profesional baseball players at the bottom rung of the Mexican league earn nearly 80k a year. That is far more than your average 6 round pug. I can't comment for the rest of Latin America as I have only done a cursory glance.

[I_Didn't_Hear_No_Bell]

There is a very low percentage of boxers at the top of the sport in comparison to the NBA, MLB NHL and NFL.

That's just the nature of a solo sport, same is true about tennis. It has nothing to do with boxing's standing as a major sport.

[Willie Pep 229]

Boxing will always be the pinnacle of sport. There's always a massive fight every decade that breaks records of all time. It just passes the eye test for anyone and everyone. The culture we have in America at least is what is causing issues overall. I believe it's coming back around and people are waking up though. It'll take a little while longer for these fighters to get out of the 'lose your 0' and your career is over syndrome. That's just some weird ****.

Ironically the UFC might help with that problem.

Their fans are willing to embrace a "champion" with multiple loses. Undefeated doesn't seem important to their mind set. Maybe that will rub off onto boxing with this next generation.

IMO Television in the 1980s with its obsession with championship fights only, and their relationship with the scantioning bodies rankings created the "0" mentality.

[JAB5239]

That's just the nature of a solo sport, same is true about tennis. It has nothing to do with boxing's standing as a major sport.

If you compare the 1920's compared to the 2020's and take out the inclusion of community and or Easter bloc countries that were not allowed to compete professionally back than, boxing has fallen way off. There were dozens of boxing clubs in every major city in the US back in the 1920's and shows and towns like New York, LA and Chicago almost every night of the week. Boxing popularity has certainly waned in the last century.