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  • #31
    Originally posted by KnockoutNed View Post
    Lewis fought prime Golota who was coming off the 2 destructions of Bowe. Lewis annihilates him in 90 seconds.

    Tyson fights the mentally shot Golota who came out of retirement. After getting destroyed by Lewis, Golota quit against Michael Grant(who Lewis also destroyed in seconds). Golota's left shoulder was ruined in a car accident in 1999 so Tyson basically was fighting a cripple who could barely throw a proper jab.

    A fat Frans Botha dominates and frustrates Tyson for 5 rounds until Tyson lands the hail mary right hand.

    Lewis fought Botha who was in much better shape. He destroys him in seconds.

    John Ruiz? You mean that guy that got destroyed by David Tua(who Lewis dominated)?

    Ruddock takes Tyson the distance, has his moments here and there.
    Lewis destroys Ruddock in seconds.

    Evander Holyfield knocks Tyson the hell out.

    Lewis puts on a masterclass twice against Holyfield, in essence beating him 2x but gets robbed the first time. Holyfield later said Lewis was the toughest opponent he ever fought.

    Lewis fought Tyson a few years later.
    Lewis destroys Tyson.

    As a final epilogue Lewis at his weakest, fattest and shottest destroys Vitali Klitschko by TKO6 who happened to be the best HW throughout the next decade.

    Lewis>>>Tyson
    Lewis did not fight a PRIME Golota - Golota was finished after losing two of the most brutal fights in boxing history against Rid**** Bowe. How can you possible claim him to be prime?

    Frans Botha was at his absolute peak against Mike Tyson who fought him after nearly two years out of the ring. Lewis chose Botha to defend his title against, so as to avoid John Ruiz. Ruiz went on to defeat Holyfield. even flooring Evander, something Lewis never came near to doing in 24rds. Yes the same Ruiz who years earlier as a novice was beaten by David Tua. which is similar to how the great Alexis Arguello was KOd early in his career, yet went on to win world titles. John Ruiz went on to be a two time Heavyweight world champion. which is why Lewis avoided him for so long.

    Ruddock was "Damaged Goods" after two brutal beatings from Tyson. i was at his fight with Lewis in 92 and Ruddock never threw a single punch.

    Holyfield was years past his best, yet was clearly ROBBED against Lewis. i was recently at "A Evening with Evander Holyfield" and Evander claimed Rid**** Bowe was the most skilled fighter and toughest opponent of his career. Evander also spoke of how he felt robbed in his fights against Lewis.

    Tyson vs Lewis 2002 took place in Memphis Tennessee USA. The bout could not be sanctioned or licsenced in any other state, due to Tyson being addicted to Prescription Anti-Depressants, Alcohol, ******* & Cannabis. it would be impossible for him to pass a pre-fight drug test. This is the reason Lewis agreed to fight Tyson. Lewis had avoided all the top contenders throughout the 1990s Foreman, Moorer, Bowe, Tyson 96, Sanders, Wlad, Ruiz & Byrd was all avoided. Lewis was stripped of all versions of the Heavyweight title, for his refusal to fight the No1 contenders.

    Lewis boasted he would have,"one brother for breakfast, the other brother for Tea" - When Vitali Klitschko stepped in to fight him at 2 weeks notice. Lewis was very fortunate to come away with the victory. But quickly ran off into retirement with his trousers full of brown, at the thought of Big Brother Wladimir...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
      Lewis did not fight a PRIME Golota - Golota was finished after losing two of the most brutal fights in boxing history against Rid**** Bowe. How can you possible claim him to be prime?
      Stopped reading after this

      Golota was considered the best non-champion by the time he fought Lewis.

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      • #33
        Golota gets excuses for literally every loss it seems and that's completely unfounded. He lost every single time he ever stepped up in elite competition and yes, that includes against Bowe. You can say he "destroyed Bowe but got himself DQ'd" all you want, I don't see it. I see a man on the verge of getting TKO'd in both fights and using fouls to stall and recover.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
          Stopped reading after this

          Golota was considered the best non-champion by the time he fought Lewis.
          That is your prerogative.. Golota took a fearful beating against Rid**** Bowe, especially in their second fight. Golota had a cut just above his chin that his teeth could be seen through. He had a two inch gash on his head, both eyes were cut above and below, he looked like he had been run over by a truck and was never the same fighter again. Those fights also finished Rid**** Bowe, so to claim him to be peak against Lewis is laughable. Golota was sedated in his dressing room after taking a panic attack, the Lewis camp was informed of his medication and correctly "Jumped on him" at the opening bell.

          Mike Tyson broke Golota's jaw and a second bone in his face..

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BKM-2010 View Post
            Golota gets excuses for literally every loss it seems and that's completely unfounded. He lost every single time he ever stepped up in elite competition and yes, that includes against Bowe. You can say he "destroyed Bowe but got himself DQ'd" all you want, I don't see it. I see a man on the verge of getting TKO'd in both fights and using fouls to stall and recover.
            Well said BKM.. Golota does not have one single elite win on his resume. His claim to fame is "Fouling" he fouled Dannell Nicholson & Samson Po'uha as well as his horrible tactics against Rid**** Bowe. Golota fouled in a deliberate way, so as to avoid being knocked out. Andrew Golota was also a "Quitter" as he showed against Michael Grant. To use Golota as Lennox Lewis greatest career victory is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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            • #36
              Lewis did not fight a PRIME Golota - Golota was finished after losing two of the most brutal fights in boxing history against Rid**** Bowe. How can you possible claim him to be prime?
              The fights were Brutal alright, brutally 1 sided that is. Golota beat Bowe from pillar to post in both fights, essentially beating the prime out of Bowe and sending him into retirement at only 28yrs old. Lewis destroyed the prime Golota in 90 seconds.

              Tyson fought the mentally deteriorated Golota who had been damaged physically and psychologically by Loses to Lewis and Grant, had briefly retired from boxing and had his left shoulder crushed in an auto accident that ruined his jab.

              Who fought the better version of Golota?

              Frans Botha was at his absolute peak against Mike Tyson
              Debatable. Was Botha at his peak when he won the IBF title against Axel Schulz? Perhaps when he bested Shannon Briggs but was unfairly given a draw? In any case when he fought Tyson he had quite abit of excess body fat but against Lewis he has leaned out some and put on some muscle.

              The point is Tyson struggled badly whilst Lewis beat Botha like he was nothing. I don't think Lennox even missed a single punch.

              Ruddock was "Damaged Goods" after two brutal beatings from Tyson. i was at his fight with Lewis in 92 and Ruddock never threw a single punch.
              Ruddock was competitve with Mike and took him the distance. Ruddock KO'd his next 2 opponents to earn title elimination vs Lewis.
              Ruddock didn't hit Lewis because he couldn't. Lewis boxed a beautiful fight, showing great lateral movement, quickness and counterpunching ability to catch an aggressive Ruddock.

              Holyfield was years past his best, yet was clearly ROBBED against Lewis. i was recently at "A Evening with Evander Holyfield" and Evander claimed Rid**** Bowe was the most skilled fighter and toughest opponent of his career. Evander also spoke of how he felt robbed in his fights against Lewis.
              Holyfield has the reigning IBF and WBA champion ranked #3 in RING magazine's top P4P.

              His trainer Don Turner said that these were the last fights of Holyfield's prime and that he left it all in the ring.

              Lewis dominated both fights, especially the first where he ironically was only given a draw.


              Tyson vs Lewis 2002 took place in Memphis Tennessee USA. The bout could not be sanctioned or licsenced in any other state, due to Tyson being addicted to Prescription Anti-Depressants, Alcohol, ******* & Cannabis.
              No the fight had a hard time being sanctioned because Tyson famously went mad at a January press conference attacking Lewis and his entourage and biting a small chunk out of Lewis leg that required stitches. The fight was sopossed to take place at MSG but Tyson's antics at the presser and a new **** allegation forced the NYSAC to deny Tyson a license to fight.

              Foreman, Moorer, Bowe, Tyson 96, Sanders, Wlad, Ruiz & Byrd was all avoided. Lewis was stripped of all versions of the Heavyweight title, for his refusal to fight the No1 contenders.
              The only time Foreman vs Lewis was a viable fight would have been if Foreman could have defended his lineal title Briggs but he lost. Lewis then destroyed Briggs inside 5 rounds to win the lineal title.
              Bowe famously threw his title in the trash to avoid Lewis after they gave Lewis a ridiculous 90/10 offer that they knew he would turn down.

              When Lewis was champ he offered Bowe a generous near 60/40 split.

              Moorer was caught up in the IBF circle jerk and KO'd by Foreman and KO'd by Holyfield(who Lewis dominated).

              Sanders was a nobody in the 90s, never beat a good fighter. He would have gotten a title shot vs Lewis had he beaten Hasim Rahman but he got KO'd.

              Lewis sued Bruno and the WBC who wrongly forced Bruno to defend his title against Tyson even though Lewis was the #1 contender. He lost his case.
              After Tyson KO'd Bruno, Lewis took King and Tyson to court to get his shot at the title but King was incessant on having Tyson defend against Holyfield. Knowing he'd lose the case, he settled with King on the condition that he would fight Tyson after Tyson beat Holyfield. After Holyfield upset Tyson via KO, the opportunity was gone.

              Byrd got destroyed by 19 fight novice Ike Ibeabuchi and destroyed by Wladimir Klitschko.

              Ruiz was a boring safety first clincher with minimal boxing skills and minimal power who had previously only been known for getting destroyed in 20 secs by David Tua. Nobody cared about ruiz and nobody wanted to see that fight.

              After Lewis won the Undisputed title over Evander Holyfield he was no longer beholden to sanctioning bodies forcing him to fight no hopers that nobody wanted to see for little money.

              The fighters make the belts, the belts don't make the fighters..

              Lewis always delivered the fights that the public wanted to see. They wanted to see him fight the undefeated American star Michael Grant. They wanted badly to finally see Tyson vs Lewis. He even agreed to fight older Klit on 2 weeks to save the show. Klit was in the best shape of his life and had admittedly been preparing to fight Lewis for years. Lewis didn't know or care about Klit, came in overweight and only sparring 8 rounds in prep to fight Klit. He still destroyed Klit, who was the best of this era.

              But quickly ran off into retirement with his trousers full of brown, at the thought of Big Brother Wladimir...
              You mean the younger, glass chinned one with poor cardio and no heart? The one who was so very easily KO'd by Sanders 1 months before Lewis vs Klit took place? Surely you must be confused..

              Lennox has a much better resume than Tyson. End of story

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              • #37
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                That is your prerogative.. Golota took a fearful beating against Rid**** Bowe, especially in their second fight. Golota had a cut just above his chin that his teeth could be seen through. He had a two inch gash on his head, both eyes were cut above and below, he looked like he had been run over by a truck and was never the same fighter again. Those fights also finished Rid**** Bowe, so to claim him to be peak against Lewis is laughable. Golota was sedated in his dressing room after taking a panic attack, the Lewis camp was informed of his medication and correctly "Jumped on him" at the opening bell.

                Mike Tyson broke Golota's jaw and a second bone in his face..
                When did he take a fearful beating? Mate you're high.

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                • #38
                  It is truly horrible to see such ignorance of the "Elroy" calibre in this section. Sonny Boy you always manage to sway it so that any fighter Lewis beat was already beat and vice versa for Tyson. You, nor any other individual have no knowledge of which version of the foul pole was better or worse....I doubt EVEN Golata himself would know which version of himself was better or worse because Golata was always a mess! Psychologically Golata has issues, to such a degree that even when he was beating Bowe he got himself dq'ed!

                  This innane line of reasoning presented creates a slippery slope. IT IS ridiculous. Tyson certainly beat and overwhelmed some skilled fighters, his greatest claim in this respect was how convincing his victories were....not the calibre of opponent he fought. lewis was, by comparison, constantly under estimated....Most people thought Golata was going to get to Lewis. Nobody really thought Golata would trouble Tyson.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KnockoutNed View Post
                    The fights were Brutal alright, brutally 1 sided that is. Golota beat Bowe from pillar to post in both fights, essentially beating the prime out of Bowe and sending him into retirement at only 28yrs old. Lewis destroyed the prime Golota in 90 seconds.

                    Tyson fought the mentally deteriorated Golota who had been damaged physically and psychologically by Loses to Lewis and Grant, had briefly retired from boxing and had his left shoulder crushed in an auto accident that ruined his jab.

                    Who fought the better version of Golota?


                    Debatable. Was Botha at his peak when he won the IBF title against Axel Schulz? Perhaps when he bested Shannon Briggs but was unfairly given a draw? In any case when he fought Tyson he had quite abit of excess body fat but against Lewis he has leaned out some and put on some muscle.

                    The point is Tyson struggled badly whilst Lewis beat Botha like he was nothing. I don't think Lennox even missed a single punch.



                    Ruddock was competitve with Mike and took him the distance. Ruddock KO'd his next 2 opponents to earn title elimination vs Lewis.
                    Ruddock didn't hit Lewis because he couldn't. Lewis boxed a beautiful fight, showing great lateral movement, quickness and counterpunching ability to catch an aggressive Ruddock.



                    Holyfield has the reigning IBF and WBA champion ranked #3 in RING magazine's top P4P.

                    His trainer Don Turner said that these were the last fights of Holyfield's prime and that he left it all in the ring.

                    Lewis dominated both fights, especially the first where he ironically was only given a draw.




                    No the fight had a hard time being sanctioned because Tyson famously went mad at a January press conference attacking Lewis and his entourage and biting a small chunk out of Lewis leg that required stitches. The fight was sopossed to take place at MSG but Tyson's antics at the presser and a new **** allegation forced the NYSAC to deny Tyson a license to fight.



                    The only time Foreman vs Lewis was a viable fight would have been if Foreman could have defended his lineal title Briggs but he lost. Lewis then destroyed Briggs inside 5 rounds to win the lineal title.
                    Bowe famously threw his title in the trash to avoid Lewis after they gave Lewis a ridiculous 90/10 offer that they knew he would turn down.

                    When Lewis was champ he offered Bowe a generous near 60/40 split.

                    Moorer was caught up in the IBF circle jerk and KO'd by Foreman and KO'd by Holyfield(who Lewis dominated).

                    Sanders was a nobody in the 90s, never beat a good fighter. He would have gotten a title shot vs Lewis had he beaten Hasim Rahman but he got KO'd.

                    Lewis sued Bruno and the WBC who wrongly forced Bruno to defend his title against Tyson even though Lewis was the #1 contender. He lost his case.
                    After Tyson KO'd Bruno, Lewis took King and Tyson to court to get his shot at the title but King was incessant on having Tyson defend against Holyfield. Knowing he'd lose the case, he settled with King on the condition that he would fight Tyson after Tyson beat Holyfield. After Holyfield upset Tyson via KO, the opportunity was gone.

                    Byrd got destroyed by 19 fight novice Ike Ibeabuchi and destroyed by Wladimir Klitschko.

                    Ruiz was a boring safety first clincher with minimal boxing skills and minimal power who had previously only been known for getting destroyed in 20 secs by David Tua. Nobody cared about ruiz and nobody wanted to see that fight.

                    After Lewis won the Undisputed title over Evander Holyfield he was no longer beholden to sanctioning bodies forcing him to fight no hopers that nobody wanted to see for little money.

                    The fighters make the belts, the belts don't make the fighters..

                    Lewis always delivered the fights that the public wanted to see. They wanted to see him fight the undefeated American star Michael Grant. They wanted badly to finally see Tyson vs Lewis. He even agreed to fight older Klit on 2 weeks to save the show. Klit was in the best shape of his life and had admittedly been preparing to fight Lewis for years. Lewis didn't know or care about Klit, came in overweight and only sparring 8 rounds in prep to fight Klit. He still destroyed Klit, who was the best of this era.



                    You mean the younger, glass chinned one with poor cardio and no heart? The one who was so very easily KO'd by Sanders 1 months before Lewis vs Klit took place? Surely you must be confused..

                    Lennox has a much better resume than Tyson. End of story
                    This is like reading the Beano magazine ..

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                      This is like reading the Beano magazine ..
                      Yeah it sucks when your bitter hatred towards a fighter isn't supported by facts. As a Tyson jocker you have to face the bitter reality that Lewis has a superior resume and legacy to Tyson. No matter how much BS you post it isn't going to change that fact.

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