was dempsey a bum?

[travestyny]

We have proven Dempsey agreed to fight Wills twice in his prime and once when Wills had no chance in hell of beating him. You’re arguing with an ass-clown who has a clear agenda on here.

“Clown” is the right word. Known history for nearly 100 years and the poster thinks he has found the holy grail by stringing together newspaper articles. Dempsey was exonerated 90 years ago when the history was fresh.

Yet neither one of you clowns will quote me directly and answer these simple questions.


1. Did Dempsey break a valid contract to fight Harry Wills?

2. Did the promoter live up to their end of the contract?



It's very simple. Your answers leave one conclusion, and I know why it ruins your pathetic lives

Don't blame me for laying out the facts. Blame Dempsey. He's the one who ducked Harry Wills, and we all know it.

[QueensburyRules]

I was trying not to take you seriously, but I have a feeling that you won't stop until you get laid to rest yet again. So here you are.

Willy Pep was clearly right. The offer was in 1922. Not 1920.

Here Dempsey is in July 1920 saying he is still holding onto the color line and only accepting challenges from "pale-skinned gentlemen."

That should stop your babbling, pops. Go to bed.

- -Where U minder at?

Frazee offer in March 2020.

My iPhone can't read U teensy print from July four months later.

Strap on U Bart Simpson smarty panties and tell us what happened in that interim.

We luv U Faery Tales. Better'n them meany Grimm Bros!!!

[travestyny]

- -Where U minder at?

Frazee offer in March 2020.

My iPhone can't read U teensy print from July four months later.

Strap on U Bart Simpson smarty panties and tell us what happened in that interim.

We luv U Faery Tales. Better'n them meany Grimm Bros!!!

Oh, so now the offer was March 2020?


Yea, I find that hard to believe since Frazee died in 1929


I told you to take your meds and go to bed, pops. You are just a bumbling elderly abuse case.


If Dempsey was STILL claiming the color line in July, how the hell do you think that means he wanted to fight Wills in March. That's beyond the point that Willy Pep already proved you have the date wrong, dummy He stated clearly that he would NOT fight Wills because he is black. You tried. You failed.

[QueensburyRules]

Oh, so now the offer was March 2020?


Yea, I find that hard to believe since Frazee died in 1929


I told you to take your meds and go to bed, pops. You are just a bumbling elderly abuse case.


If Dempsey was STILL claiming the color line in July, how the hell do you think that means he wanted to fight Wills in March. That's beyond the point that Willy Pep already proved you have the date wrong, dummy He stated clearly that he would NOT fight Wills because he is black. You tried. You failed.

- -Spell check on my iPhone alters my content into gibber ear<<
I'm sure U minder can plug in 1920 4 U...simples 4 him/her/it!

[travestyny]

- -Spell check on my iPhone alters my content into gibber ear<<
I'm sure U minder can plug in 1920 4 U...simples 4 him/her/it!

Your brain (or lack thereof) delivers your content as the straight doo doo it is.


There was no 1920 offer. Willy Pep already explained it to you. You can find multiple sources for the 1922 offer, but only one for the 1920 one. As has already been mentioned and confirmed, Dempsey didn't move off of the 1920 color-line stance even by July of 1920, so that already ended your foolishness.


Give up.

[QueensburyRules]

Your brain (or lack thereof) delivers your content as the straight doo doo it is.


There was no 1920 offer. Willy Pep already explained it to you. You can find multiple sources for the 1922 offer, but only one for the 1920 one. As has already been mentioned and confirmed, Dempsey didn't move off of the 1920 color-line stance even by July of 1920, so that already ended your foolishness.


Give up.

- -There was no refutation. There was an additional off 2 years later.

Was U da wicked witch in Hansel and Gretal?

[travestyny]

- -There was no refutation. There was an additional off 2 years later.

Was U da wicked witch in Hansel and Gretal?

Complete utter lie. You can't even provide another source for it. I checked myself and this offer is nowhere to be found. But what is found is Dempsey in 1920 saying he will NOT fight Wills or any black man.


It's over. Just stop.

[Willie Pep 229]

- -There was no refutation. There was an additional off 2 years later.

Was U da wicked witch in Hansel and Gretal?

Found something for 1920; Kearns and Frazee were talking (indirectly) in 1920.

NYT October 27th 1920

Kearns is being interviewed about the coming Carpentier fight and a Rickard proposal he was suppose to sign that day. He is begging off that day's meeting, stating he is not ready to sign the contracts just yet.

He then surfaces the names Jack Curley and Tom O'Rourke, as promoters who have the backing (money) of Harry Frazee.

But their offer is for the Carpentier fight as well; Rickard was fronting $500,000 so Curley, O'Rourke, and Frazee are offering to front $600,000. But that's only what Kearns says; no interview with the actual promoters have I yet found.

The article's healines make it look as though Kearns was using Curley and O'Rourke as leverage because we know he did sign the papers with Rickard.

Give it a read; there also was some talk about Kearns being the referee LOL, but Kearns backs off and throws out some names, a small list of 'who's who' from the current crop of refs. That in itself makes the read worth the time.

But Kearns and Frazee were talking in 1920. -- ????????? interesting??????????

P.S. I still think that the baseball web page's 1920 was a typo, they were referencing the Dempsey-Wills offer of $350,00 directly and they had the correct month, March. This offer was in October and for Carpentier. They just blew the year.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Wills was a bum.

Why does anyone care that he didn't get a title shot?

[QueensburyRules]

Complete utter lie. You can't even provide another source for it. I checked myself and this offer is nowhere to be found. But what is found is Dempsey in 1920 saying he will NOT fight Wills or any black man.


It's over. Just stop.

- -what U minder name wh speak for U?

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