Prime Ali vs Prime Marciano: Who wins?

[Pleonism]

If a prime Ali would be around today, and his next challenger would be announced as a 5'10" not fully grown cruiserweight, we would call it a mismatch. Which it had been.

Sometimes statistics fool us. What is 49-0 and great in one era doesn't
mean much when whe're moving on to the next era.

Larry holmes was once 49-0, and then lost his next match.

Rocky Marciano is rarely mentioned as a top 3 boxer of all time. Ali, however, is. I strongly disagree though that Ali is the best we've seen. The young Mike Tyson, under correct strategical coaching, would beat Ali, in my opinion. Tyson had everything before losing his speed. Later becoming neutralized, by the likes of Holyfield, and Lennox Lewis.

Marciano I am not so sure. He boxed so differently from everybody else!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Dereck Chisora is a limited fighter, but I doubt Marciano walks right through him. No fighter really walks right through Chisora, just ask Vitali. Chisora is tough as nails in a ring.

Didn't haye put him out in about 14 minutes... Chisora would get stopped pretty easy by Marciano

[Elroy1]

Didn't haye put him out in about 14 minutes... Chisora would get stopped pretty easy by Marciano

Neither Chisora or Haye would even be allowed to fight Marciano today.

Just take a look at them. That settles that dispute right there.

It's "physically impossible" for Marciano to beat either.

[beez721]

Neither Chisora or Haye would even be allowed to fight Marciano today.

Just take a look at them. That settles that dispute right there.

It's "physically impossible" for Marciano to beat either.

of course. weight is everything when it comes to boxing

[Scott9945]

Larry holmes was once 49-0, and then lost his next match.

Larry Holmes was 48-0 when he lost to Michael Spinks.

[Long jabber]

of course. weight is everything when it comes to boxing

thats why manny lost to margarito.

tyson lost to tucker. ribalta, bone crusher smith

muhamad lost to that one tall ****er that was like 6'8 aswell LOL


i can spot a wlad nut hugger and he is definitly one dude

[Pleonism]

Larry Holmes was 48-0 when he lost to Michael Spinks.

Close enough. The 49-0 record is not impossible in modern times.

[billeau2]

Neither Chisora or Haye would even be allowed to fight Marciano today.

Just take a look at them. That settles that dispute right there.

It's "physically impossible" for Marciano to beat either.

man you like the colonel you do ****** right,

[Elroy1]

thats why manny lost to margarito.

tyson lost to tucker. ribalta, bone crusher smith

muhamad lost to that one tall ****er that was like 6'8 aswell LOL


i can spot a wlad nut hugger and he is definitly one dude

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(1) Those were very specific examples, over representative samples its clear the greater the weight difference, the greater the incidence the heftier guy wins.

(2) In none of those examples was there a 60lb weight differential. Not even close.

I like Marciano and he has puncher chance against the chinnier version of Ali but he isn't a real HW as we'd describe him today.

He isn't even what we'd today describe as a proper CW really.

But he did hit much harder than his size suggests. I'll give you'se all that much.

[Scott9945]

Close enough. The 49-0 record is not impossible in modern times.

The one win short is the difference between Holmes tying the record for a heavyweight champion or not. So while very impressive, not really close enough.