Top 50 fighters last 30 years ie since 1984

[IronDanHamza]

Nelson fought him at lightweight and still gave him a reasonably tough fight it is a very good win but not a great one.

What Donaire did to Arce, Nishioka and Navarez cemented his resume.

Yet you consider Hopkins win over Wright some amazing win

[soul_survivor]

Here is the list IN ORDER

1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Mike McCallum
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
6. Evander Holyfield
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Humberto Gonzalez
10. Rafael Marquez
11. Chris Eubank
12. Winky Wright
13. Erik Morales
14. Azumah Nelson
15. James Toney
16. Pernell Whitaker
17. Nonito Donaire
18. Tito Trinidad
19. Floyd Mayweather
20. Lennox Lewis
21. Steve Collins
22. Ricardo Lopez
23. Hector Camacho
24. Terry Norris
25. Marlon Starling
26. Andre Ward
27. Shane Mosley
28. Julian Jackson
29. Oscar De La Hoya
30. Naseem Hamed
31. Michael Carbajal
32. Jeff Fenech
33. Donald Curry
34. Mark Johnson
35. Sumbu Kalambay
36. Orlando Canizales
37. Sergio Martinez
38. Carl Froch
39. Israel Vasquez
40. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
41. Khaosai Galaxy
42. Raul Perez
43. Johnny Tapia
44. Rid**** Bowe
45. Nigel Benn
46. Wladimir Klitschko

These obviously 4 rank much much higher overall but the best part of their careers were pre-1984

47. Michael Spinks
48. Thomas Hearns
49. Sugar Ray Leonard
50. Marvin Hagler

I dunno what to make of this list, even with SRL not being so active I'd have him much higher, wins over Hagler and Duran are better than anything most other guys have done including a draw with Hearns. Not to mention he was still extremely skilled, quick and intelligent, definitely the best all round fighter on the planet till about 89/90. His losses came when he was faded, especially against Camacho.

Oh and I know Duran wasn't at his best but the guy had just beaten Barkley, hurting him several times in the process. the mid to late 80s was a renaissance period for Hands of Stone.

Plus Froch needs to be above Martinez and how Oscar is so low is beyond me

Yet you consider Hopkins win over Wright some amazing win

Let's never talk about that horrendous fight ever again.

[Suckmedry]

Here is the list IN ORDER

1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Mike McCallum
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
6. Evander Holyfield
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Humberto Gonzalez
10. Rafael Marquez
11. Chris Eubank
12. Winky Wright
13. Erik Morales
14. Azumah Nelson
15. James Toney
16. Pernell Whitaker
17. Nonito Donaire
18. Tito Trinidad
19. Floyd Mayweather
20. Lennox Lewis
21. Steve Collins
22. Ricardo Lopez
23. Hector Camacho
24. Terry Norris
25. Marlon Starling
26. Andre Ward
27. Shane Mosley
28. Julian Jackson
29. Oscar De La Hoya
30. Naseem Hamed
31. Michael Carbajal
32. Jeff Fenech
33. Donald Curry
34. Mark Johnson
35. Sumbu Kalambay
36. Orlando Canizales
37. Sergio Martinez
38. Carl Froch
39. Israel Vasquez
40. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
41. Khaosai Galaxy
42. Raul Perez
43. Johnny Tapia
44. Rid**** Bowe
45. Nigel Benn
46. Wladimir Klitschko

These obviously 4 rank much much higher overall but the best part of their careers were pre-1984

47. Michael Spinks
48. Thomas Hearns
49. Sugar Ray Leonard
50. Marvin Hagler

There was way more, but that one REALLY made me go

[greeh]

I was generous with Roman he probable doesn't belong I should add either Orlando Canizales or Raul Perez.

The only one you’re being generous towards is Khaosai. He should definitely not be included if Roman is left out.

Roman was better in every aspect, but since he didn't have any of the Thai's strong basic tools, he perhaps doesn't come off as jaw dropping and impressive to the broad masses as Khaosai's brutal power and physicality does - but he compensated by being a masterful ring-mechanic with a much better resume.

Khaosai’s opposition is about on the same level as Lopez’ - and that’s not meant as a compliment. His best win is probably an absolutely shot version of Rafael Orono for God's sake!

Roman belongs in the list and should be included way before even considering Khaosai for a spot.

[El Jesus]

Off topic, but did you guys know they tried to bring back Tyson for wrestlemania 17 to box triple h, but it ended up being to costly and they nixed it..

Google wrestlemania matches never happened, there is an article with hhh about it

no way Levesque wanted to do that, not only would he have lost but he would have looked weak. HHH will do just about anything to not look weak. if he could have gone over against taker at WM 28/27 without the fans ready to kill him he would have.

[El Jesus]

There was way more, but that one REALLY made me go

i could see how someone would have him so highly because his run was pretty decent obviously peaking with his stoppage of vasquez , he was, for a long time, viewed as the superior brother. but that is a little high.

[El Jesus]

Arce may have been a better fighter but using his fight with donaire to support the idea that nonito should be on the list is just wrong. It's a horrible example, and arce was clearly a shell of himself, up in weight, and not an ideal fight to judge one's greatness..

It's similar to manny beating Shane, or gatti-baldomir, etc... Just an aging fighter cashing out on his name..

Better example to support donaire would be the first Vic fight

That arce fight, infact, many arce fights just came too damn late. 2006 should have featured arce/darchinyan, after arce dominated rosendo alvarez i just wish it would have happened then

[Sugar Adam Ali]

That arce fight, infact, many arce fights just came too damn late. 2006 should have featured arce/darchinyan, after arce dominated rosendo alvarez i just wish it would have happened then

Arce after he beat Hussien was on a roll, but i think mijares beat him shortly after that...
Arce-Hussien was one of the ATG undercard fights,, I believe it was on manny-morales 1...

[Sugar Adam Ali]

no way Levesque wanted to do that, not only would he have lost but he would have looked weak. HHH will do just about anything to not look weak. if he could have gone over against taker at WM 28/27 without the fans ready to kill him he would have.

HHH gets alot of flack, and yes he hasnt put over some guys in the past, but in the long run, he put over the Rock, benoit, Batista, Cena, Bryan, Undertaker,
and in the near future i expect him to put over the shield, especially roman reigns...

[soul_survivor]

HHH gets alot of flack, and yes he hasnt put over some guys in the past, but in the long run, he put over the Rock, benoit, Batista, Cena, Bryan, Undertaker,
and in the near future i expect him to put over the shield, especially roman reigns...

LOL lets get off WWE now, it hasn't been the same since Rocky and Stone C.