Top 50 fighters last 30 years ie since 1984

[soul_survivor]

MAB was the best featherweight of Naz's generation surely?

Naz could have been a great he was quick, unorthodox, elusive and had insane power. But he regressed throughout his title reign. He became over reliant on his power. Leading up the Barrera fight up had looked like **** in many a fight, buttes had always managed to pull out the KO victory. Until MAB destroyed him.

Naz never learnt to use the physical gifts he was born with properly and so was schooled by the best fighter he ever faced. And he would have been schooled by Fenech too.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, Naz probably stops Fenech.

But look, we can only rnak guys on what we see and what they did and Naz has better accomplishments, is quicker and hits harder. no argument can be made fenech being better. its just ignorant to think so.

in terms of the MAB yeah he won but it was hardly a destruction, most of the rounds were a disgrace, both men averaging some 30 punches per round, especially the first 6, hardly a destruction.

i dunno where this myth of a destruction has come from, reminds me of all these "fans" who say jmm beat john.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Here is the list IN ORDER

1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Mike McCallum
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
6. Evander Holyfield
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Humberto Gonzalez
10. Rafael Marquez
11. Chris Eubank
12. Winky Wright
13. Erik Morales
14. Azumah Nelson
15. James Toney
16. Pernell Whitaker
17. Nonito Donaire
18. Tito Trinidad
19. Floyd Mayweather
20. Lennox Lewis
21. Steve Collins
22. Ricardo Lopez
23. Hector Camacho
24. Terry Norris
25. Marlon Starling
26. Andre Ward
27. Shane Mosley
28. Julian Jackson
29. Oscar De La Hoya
30. Naseem Hamed
31. Michael Carbajal
32. Jeff Fenech
33. Donald Curry
34. Mark Johnson
35. Sumbu Kalambay
36. Orlando Canizales
37. Sergio Martinez
38. Carl Froch
39. Israel Vasquez
40. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
41. Khaosai Galaxy
42. Raul Perez
43. Johnny Tapia
44. Rid**** Bowe
45. Nigel Benn
46. Wladimir Klitschko

These obviously 4 rank much much higher overall but the best part of their careers were pre-1984

47. Michael Spinks
48. Thomas Hearns
49. Sugar Ray Leonard
50. Marvin Hagler

[IronDanHamza]

Here is the list IN ORDER

1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Mike McCallum
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
6. Evander Holyfield
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Humberto Gonzalez
10. Rafael Marquez
12. Azumah Nelson
13. Chris Eubank
14. Winky Wright
15. Erik Morales
16. Tito Trinidad
17. Floyd Mayweather
18. Pernell Whitaker
19. Nonito Donaire
20. James Toney
21. Lennox Lewis
22. Steve Collins
23. Ricardo Lopez
24. Hector Camacho
25. Terry Norris
26. Marlon Starling
27. Andre Ward
28. Shane Mosley
29. Julian Jackson
30. Oscar De La Hoya
31. Michael Carbajal
32. Naseem Hamed
33. Jeff Fenech
34. Donald Curry
35. Mark Johnson
36. Sumbu Kalambay
37. Sergio Martinez
38. Nigel Benn
39. Israel Vasquez
40. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
41. Khaosai Galaxy
42. Raul Perez
43. Johnny Tapia
44. Rid**** Bowe
45. Nigel Benn
46. Wladimir Klitschko

These obviously 4 rank much much higher overall but the best part of their careers were pre-1984

47. Michael Spinks
48. Thomas Hearns
49. Sugar Ray Leonard
50. Marvin Hagler

Funny list.

[SBleeder]

Here is the list IN ORDER

1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Mike McCallum
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
6. Evander Holyfield
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Humberto Gonzalez
10. Rafael Marquez
12. Azumah Nelson
13. Chris Eubank
14. Winky Wright
15. Erik Morales
16. Tito Trinidad
17. Floyd Mayweather
18. Pernell Whitaker
19. Nonito Donaire
20. James Toney
21. Lennox Lewis
22. Steve Collins
23. Ricardo Lopez
24. Hector Camacho
25. Terry Norris
26. Marlon Starling
27. Andre Ward
28. Shane Mosley
29. Julian Jackson
30. Oscar De La Hoya
31. Michael Carbajal
32. Naseem Hamed
33. Jeff Fenech
34. Donald Curry
35. Mark Johnson
36. Sumbu Kalambay
37. Sergio Martinez
38. Nigel Benn
39. Israel Vasquez
40. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
41. Khaosai Galaxy
42. Raul Perez
43. Johnny Tapia
44. Rid**** Bowe
45. Nigel Benn
46. Wladimir Klitschko

These obviously 4 rank much much higher overall but the best part of their careers were pre-1984

47. Michael Spinks
48. Thomas Hearns
49. Sugar Ray Leonard
50. Marvin Hagler

No. Just no.

[SCtrojansbaby]

You like most people give Pernell Whitaker credit for fights he didn't win. his actually resume just isn't that great? His best win is Julio Cesar Vasquez

[Holywarrior]

his actually resume just isn't that great? His best win is Julio Cesar Vasquez

Or maybe Azumah Nelson? The dude you have rated numerous spots ahead of him

[Welsh Jon]

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, Naz probably stops Fenech.

But look, we can only rnak guys on what we see and what they did and Naz has better accomplishments, is quicker and hits harder. no argument can be made fenech being better. its just ignorant to think so.

in terms of the MAB yeah he won but it was hardly a destruction, most of the rounds were a disgrace, both men averaging some 30 punches per round, especially the first 6, hardly a destruction.

i dunno where this myth of a destruction has come from, reminds me of all these "fans" who say jmm beat john.

No arguement can be made that Fenech is better? Really! 3 weight world champion. Robbed of the title in a 4th divison with a bull**** draw. Do these accomplishments really pale in comparison to Hameds?

[billeau2]

Here is the list IN ORDER

1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Mike McCallum
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
6. Evander Holyfield
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Humberto Gonzalez
10. Rafael Marquez
11. Chris Eubank
12. Winky Wright
13. Erik Morales
14. Azumah Nelson
15. James Toney
16. Pernell Whitaker
17. Nonito Donaire
18. Tito Trinidad
19. Floyd Mayweather
20. Lennox Lewis
21. Steve Collins
22. Ricardo Lopez
23. Hector Camacho
24. Terry Norris
25. Marlon Starling
26. Andre Ward
27. Shane Mosley
28. Julian Jackson
29. Oscar De La Hoya
30. Naseem Hamed
31. Michael Carbajal
32. Jeff Fenech
33. Donald Curry
34. Mark Johnson
35. Sumbu Kalambay
36. Orlando Canizales
37. Sergio Martinez
38. Carl Froch
39. Israel Vasquez
40. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
41. Khaosai Galaxy
42. Raul Perez
43. Johnny Tapia
44. Rid**** Bowe
45. Nigel Benn
46. Wladimir Klitschko

These obviously 4 rank much much higher overall but the best part of their careers were pre-1984

47. Michael Spinks
48. Thomas Hearns
49. Sugar Ray Leonard
50. Marvin Hagler

Wow....how do you make such a detailed list like this?! Amazing feat frankly, agree or disagree.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Also you said you aren't sold on Donaire??? Donaire is easily in the top 30.

Not of the last 30 years. No I don't think he fits,, maybe in five years when the timeline is 1989-2019.... If he has success at feather and possibly higher,then he will be on future lists..

To me donaire is similar to oscar from 94-96.. They dominated in lower weight classes when they always had a huge size advantage.. They both have beaten quality fighters, but they were always possessing physical advantages.. Oscar went up and fought same size or bigger guys at welter and jr mid,,, I want to see donaire at feather and 130 vs guys his own size... That's my only reservations about donaire...

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I'm glad to see so many different posts and view points on this thread... Interesting discussion..

As to how to rate Jeff fenech, I think no doubt he should be on the list, but I also think it shouldn't cost naz a spot on it,,, I think they both should be on it with fenech being so where between 35-45 and naz being 45-50

Remember when fenech was training Tyson? That was a thankless job