How many ATG fighters since 2009?

[Ray Corso]

After watching that "so-called" fight the other day everyone wants Wlad!!!!
Hulk Hogan vs Wlad the "Leaner" 20 rounds or till the entire audiance falls asleep!

[Anthony342]

Evander would be fkn 51 by the time the fight happened. I doubt it would even get sanctioned.

I certainly hope not, although Duran was 50 when he had his last fight and Holmes 52 before he finally retired. And to think a fighter or even athlete in their 30s was considered old, now it's mid to late 40s or early 50s. Of course Holmes only fought an old Bonecrusher Smith and Butterbean at the end of this career though.

[C.Y.]

Whoever thinks Sergio Martinez is an ATG needs to put the crack pipe down. He's a really good fighter, a hall of famer, I actually like him he's a solid fighter. But ATG, no

[BafanaBafana]

If he beat Golovkin he'd have a half decent case for the HOF.

Perhaps if he beats Ward he'll be near Gatti's level...

[IronDanHamza]

Perhaps if he beats Ward he'll be near Gatti's level...

So because Gatti's in the HOF you feel everyone above him should get in then I assume?

Such a moronic way to look at it.

Every time an undeserving fighter is talked about for the HOF I see "Well Gatti's in, so he should be in" or "McGuigan's in, so he should be in"

How about let's NOT let them in? How about higher the standard instead of continuing to justify lower level guys in because the odd few low standard entries?

How about Zab Judah? Let him in? After all, "Gatti's in".

How about Joshua Clottey? "Gatti's in", maybe two more wins will get him "Gatti's level"

Why stop there? Let's put Fernando Vargas in aswell. "Gatti's in".

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Perhaps if he beats Ward he'll be near Gatti's level...

So because Gatti's in the HOF you feel everyone above him should get in then I assume?

Such a moronic way to look at it.

Every time an undeserving fighter is talked about for the HOF I see "Well Gatti's in, so he should be in" or "McGuigan's in, so he should be in"

How about let's NOT let them in? How about higher the standard instead of continuing to justify lower level guys in because the odd few low standard entries?

How about Zab Judah? Let him in? After all, "Gatti's in".

How about Joshua Clottey? "Gatti's in", maybe two more wins will get him "Gatti's level"

Why stop there? Let's put Fernando Vargas in aswell. "Gatti's in".

The thing about the hall of fame, is its the "Hall of FAME" not the hall of skill, hall of great champions, hall of ATGs,, Hall of fame- FAME meaning you were famous,, hence why a Gatti will get it,, he had about a half dozen of Fights of the year, he was a huge draw, he was famous,,, Guys are different in how they become famous,, some are great fighters, others are great characters, but in the end, i think the defining criteria for making the hall of fame is if someone did a history report on an era of boxing like say 95-05,you couldnt possible talk about the great fights of those years and not bring up gatti constantly,,, Same thing with Vargas,, im sure he will be in one day, you cant talk about his era without bringing him up,, even after 50 years, his name would still come up if talking about his era...

im not trying to make a huge debate about criteria into the hall of fame, but i just think if your good enough for the history books, then your good enough for the hall of fame,, but i do think they need another wing reserved for true ATGs like SRL, ALi, louis, etc and one wing for guys like gatti, mcguiian, etc

[IronDanHamza]

The thing about the hall of fame, is its the "Hall of FAME" not the hall of skill, hall of great champions, hall of ATGs,, Hall of fame- FAME meaning you were famous,, hence why a Gatti will get it,, he had about a half dozen of Fights of the year, he was a huge draw, he was famous,,, Guys are different in how they become famous,, some are great fighters, others are great characters, but in the end, i think the defining criteria for making the hall of fame is if someone did a history report on an era of boxing like say 95-05,you couldnt possible talk about the great fights of those years and not bring up gatti constantly,,, Same thing with Vargas,, im sure he will be in one day, you cant talk about his era without bringing him up,, even after 50 years, his name would still come up if talking about his era...

im not trying to make a huge debate about criteria into the hall of fame, but i just think if your good enough for the history books, then your good enough for the hall of fame,, but i do think they need another wing reserved for true ATGs like SRL, ALi, louis, etc and one wing for guys like gatti, mcguiian, etc

Gatti is in already.

I absolutely understand the logic of inducting him.

McGugian too, his impact on Ireland was ridiculous.

Me personally, I don't agree with them being inducted. I can understand it, but I don't agree. The HOF for me should be exclusive to people who achieve that status in the ring.

What annoys me is when people use the bottom of the barrel inductees to justify someone to be in the HOF.

"How about David Haye for the HOF?" "Well, Gatti's in so why not?"

That's ******. And that line of thinking will lead the HOF being a joke full of ridiculously undeserving members.

I also doubt very much Vargas ever see's the HOF.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Gatti is in already.

I absolutely understand the logic of inducting him.

McGugian too, his impact on Ireland was ridiculous.

Me personally, I don't agree with them being inducted. I can understand it, but I don't agree. The HOF for me should be exclusive to people who achieve that status in the ring.

What annoys me is when people use the bottom of the barrel inductees to justify someone to be in the HOF.

"How about David Haye for the HOF?" "Well, Gatti's in so why not?"

That's ******. And that line of thinking will lead the HOF being a joke full of ridiculously undeserving members.

I also doubt very much Vargas ever see's the HOF.

I know gatti's in,, i said "a gatti will get in" should have said a gatti-type, sorry for the confusion...

I do agree how its not good to use the bottom of the barrel, you have to draw a limit somewhere, using my theory buster douglas would be a HOFer because there is no way to tell the history of boxing without douglas, but he is far from a HOFer....

Vargas will get in someday, so will prince naseem, who IMO should have already been in,,,,
Vargas will sell tickets, and he had a big fan base,, He doesnt probably deserve it but i can see him getting in...

Thats why i want 2 wings in the HOF, one for ATGs like holyfield, foreman, oscar, and another for the more trivial characters like vargas, judah, gatti

[BafanaBafana]

So because Gatti's in the HOF you feel everyone above him should get in then I assume?

Such a moronic way to look at it.

Every time an undeserving fighter is talked about for the HOF I see "Well Gatti's in, so he should be in" or "McGuigan's in, so he should be in"

How about let's NOT let them in? How about higher the standard instead of continuing to justify lower level guys in because the odd few low standard entries?

How about Zab Judah? Let him in? After all, "Gatti's in".

How about Joshua Clottey? "Gatti's in", maybe two more wins will get him "Gatti's level"

Why stop there? Let's put Fernando Vargas in aswell. "Gatti's in".

The only moronic here is your skewed logic, it's pretty clear to me a fighter like Sergio stands a good chance of making it to the HOF. It's the 'Hall of Fame,' maybe you don't understand the criteria. You should take a look at some of the names on the list (one by one) and compare them to Sergio's popularity and ring accomplishments. Whether you like it or not he'll probably make it sooner or later even if he's not a first ballot.

[IronDanHamza]

The only moronic here is your skewed logic, it's pretty clear to me a fighter like Sergio stands a good chance of making it to the HOF. It's the 'Hall of Fame,' maybe you don't understand the criteria. You should take a look at some of the names on the list (one by one) and compare them to Sergio's popularity and ring accomplishments. Whether you like it or not he'll probably make it sooner or later even if he's not a first ballot.

Whether he makes it or not is irrelevant, to me.

He shouldn't be inducted, not for what he's achieved in boxing at least.

The fact there's a few that have achieved less than him that wrongly were inducted isn't a justification for him to be inducted.

That's the epitome of "skewed logic".