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  • What was prime Foreman, 224-230lbs? What was prime Rocky, 195lbs?

    You'd expect the naturally bigger man to have a heavier punch. A more equal comparison is with other guys Rocky's size and who of them could punch like Rocky could?

    It gets very hard comparing some heavyweights when there might be a 2-3 stone weight difference and a 5-7 inch height difference.

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    • Originally posted by CounterPuncher View Post
      What was prime Foreman, 224-230lbs? What was prime Rocky, 195lbs?

      You'd expect the naturally bigger man to have a heavier punch. A more equal comparison is with other guys Rocky's size and who of them could punch like Rocky could?

      It gets very hard comparing some heavyweights when there might be a 2-3 stone weight difference and a 5-7 inch height difference.
      rocky never fought at 195 pounds

      he weighed 190 or 2 pounds above that only 4 times in his 49-0 fights!!!!!!!

      he came in a slow as 178 pounds quite a few times. That's only 3 pounds above the light heavyweight division

      his prime weight was 185-87 pounds. to compare his punching power to guys above 210 pounds is borderline illegal and innapropriate

      any unknown heavyweight out there would punch harder than rocky

      dont listen to anything thuderlips is saying, she proved that she's a complete idiot, who is more in love with rocky as a man than as a fighter

      thunder lips also said that rocky was bigger than holyfield....is she ******ed?
      she also said roland la starza would knock out prime mike tyson, and that marciano would dust klitschko

      simply put, thunder lips needs years of medical attention. i hope her parents can provide that for her.

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      • Originally posted by CounterPuncher View Post
        What was prime Foreman, 224-230lbs? What was prime Rocky, 195lbs?

        You'd expect the naturally bigger man to have a heavier punch. A more equal comparison is with other guys Rocky's size and who of them could punch like Rocky could?

        It gets very hard comparing some heavyweights when there might be a 2-3 stone weight difference and a 5-7 inch height difference.
        Earnie Shavers was only 6'0" and naturally hovered around 200 lbs when he was in reasonable shape and not overweight, by most accounts he hit harder than 215-220 Tyson and Foreman. Fraizer and Louis had fought below 200 lbs too. Accoring to Walcott, Marciano hit much harder than Louis.

        Most of Marciano's power seems to actually come from his compact frame and use of leverage. A combination of natural talent and the technique that best brought it out.

        http://youtube.com/watch?v=M9msELiZKyU&feature=related

        This punch would have stopped anybody cold.


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        • are you still trying to prove that rocky punched harder than most heavyweights.......LOL relax baby, you trying too hard

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          • Can someone give me the link of Foreman on the bag.

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            • Earnie Shavers was only 6'0" and naturally hovered around 200 lbs when he was in reasonable shape and not overweight, by most accounts he hit harder than 215-220 Tyson and Foreman. Fraizer and Louis had fought below 200 lbs too. Accoring to Walcott, Marciano hit much harder than Louis.
              Once again a gross understatement, Earnie shavers didn't hover around 200 lbs he came to most of his fights 210+ even as high as 230 almost, you looked at shavers lowest weight he ever made in his career and called it his natural weight.

              Archie Moore also said Patterson hit harder than Marciano, Marciano simply wore fighters down.

              Marciano's natural weight was 186, Foreman's prime weight was probably 224
              Last edited by them_apples; 06-14-2008, 12:16 PM.

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              • Originally posted by them_apples View Post
                Once again a gross understatement, Earnie shavers didn't hover around 200 lbs he came to most of his fights 210+ even as high as 230 almost, you looked at shavers lowest weight he ever made in his career and called it his natural weight.

                Archie Moore also said Patterson hit harder than Marciano, Marciano simply wore fighters down.

                Marciano's natural weight was 186, Foreman's prime weight was probably 224
                how anyone can make a comparisson between rocky's and george's power is beyond me. i guess people forget to put on glasses to get the full picture. rocky punched hard, but he was nowhere near top 10 hardest punchers, and maybe not even top 20. marciano was a tiny heavyweight who scaled just 10 pounds above today's light heavywight limit.

                personally i laugh at how anyone could even suggest that someone like rocky would walk through a lewis or a klitschko...

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                • How would anyone know if Marciano was a freak of punching power? he never tested himself against opponents bigger than him! Even guys smaller than him he had trouble with!

                  It doesn't make sense for him to have any p4p power at all.

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                  • Originally posted by Flawless View Post
                    Can someone give me the link of Foreman on the bag.
                    See the first bit of this vid

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                    • Originally posted by Thunder Lips View Post
                      Earnie Shavers was only 6'0" and naturally hovered around 200 lbs when he was in reasonable shape and not overweight, by most accounts he hit harder than 215-220 Tyson and Foreman. Fraizer and Louis had fought below 200 lbs too. Accoring to Walcott, Marciano hit much harder than Louis.

                      Most of Marciano's power seems to actually come from his compact frame and use of leverage. A combination of natural talent and the technique that best brought it out.

                      http://youtube.com/watch?v=M9msELiZKyU&feature=related

                      This punch would have stopped anybody cold.


                      actually, that picture is NOT the punch that Marciano knocked Walcott out with. that punch came earlier in the fight. well, obviously it was earlier because Walcott was knocked out cold and theres no way that fight would continue after that, haha. but yea, Walcott was not knocked out by that punch, but it does look pretty bad, doesnt it?

                      for the most part, Rocky was the kind of guy who wore you down and finished you off with powerful punches. he didnt have the kind of power that Foreman did, imo. but the good thing about Rocky is that his power stayed with him for pretty much the whole fight, which you really couldnt say about Foreman.
                      but Marciano just did not have the kind of raw power Foreman did.

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