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  • #41
    Originally posted by Yogi
    Primo Carnera > Manuel Ramos, and by a substantial margin.

    P.S. The championship winning right uppercut that knocked out Jack Sharkey along the ropes looked legitimate enough to me.
    and who was jack sharkey? was he a great boxer? i don't think so!

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    • #42
      Originally posted by butterfly1964
      and who was jack sharkey? was he a great boxer? i don't think so!
      No Sharkey is not usually considered an all-time great, but he was a very good boxing talent for the division...good footwork, left jab, right hand, excellant counter left hook, etc. He also beat a good number of the top Heavyweights of his day, as well.

      Both the IBRO and The Ring considered Jack Sharkey one of the thirty greatest Heavyweights of all-time.

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      • #43
        Sharkey was a good boxer, some nights, he fights GREAT(As he did vs Dempsey) and on other nights, bad or decent.

        Sharkey may not have the best of chins, as Louis, Dempsey, Carnea and others prove.

        But one CAN not denie the guy had talnet. Good foot work, very smooth, when he was ON of couse. fast hands. and decent power. Sharkey could give almost any one a run for there money if he FELT like it. He was very emotion when he fought(Thus the nick name )

        He is not a great boxer, But a GOOD boxer is a yes.

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        • #44
          A quick count reveals that Jack Sharkey defeated three members of the IBRO's top thirty, compared to only one by Frazier.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Yogi
            A quick count reveals that Jack Sharkey defeated three members of the IBRO's top thirty, compared to only one by Frazier.
            frazier beat only one. who?

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            • #46
              Sharkey was an excellent fighter. Top 30 heavyweight for sure.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by butterfly1964
                frazier beat only one. who?
                Take a guess.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Yogi
                  Take a guess.
                  he beat alot more than just muhammad ali.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by butterfly1964
                    he beat alot more than just muhammad ali.
                    But only Ali was listed amongst the IBRO's top thirty, though.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Yogi
                      But only Ali was listed amongst the IBRO's top thirty, though.
                      if jack sharkey was listed in the top 30, then jimmy ellis, jerry quarry, george chuvalo, and floyd patterson should have been too, all of them were beat by frazier.

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