What if tyson had holyfield's heart he would have been the greatest champion ever...

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  • HOUDINI563
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    #51
    Unfortunately Tyson’s legacy is already sealed. He is never rated with the very best because of this intrinsic flaw. He was not tough where it really counts. Push him hard and he becomes a much more sedate fighter.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #52
      Originally posted by HOUDINI563
      Unfortunately Tyson’s legacy is already sealed. He is never rated with the very best because of this intrinsic flaw. He was not tough where it really counts. Push him hard and he becomes a much more sedate fighter.
      - -Must not have gotten the Email.

      Best to best Tyson blows Ali out the water.

      Incontestable if U just ditch U koolaide tonics and compare timelines. Ali was no record setter.

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      • Willie Pep 229
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        #53
        I don't see it!

        If Tyson had Holyfield's heart he would be Holyfield.

        I don't see any particular athletic skill in Tyson's kit, that Holyfield didn't already possess.
        Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 06-19-2020, 06:37 PM.

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          #54
          Intrinsic toughness/will to win is something you have or don’t independently of style and boxing skill. Ali and Marciano had it. Tyson did not. It was Tyson’s Achilles heel.

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          • louis54
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            #55
            Good posts houdini

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #56
              Originally posted by HOUDINI563
              Intrinsic toughness/will to win is something you have or don’t independently of style and boxing skill. Ali and Marciano had it. Tyson did not. It was Tyson’s Achilles heel.
              - -All U got is washerwoman blabber.

              Field weren't tough enough to turn pro at hvy like Mike. What if when he moved to hvy, instead of his vitamins, he was proscribed dangerous experimental psychotropic sedatives?

              Yeah, we know exactly how that goes, sorta like U having to drink U wash water...only in boxing, folks!!!

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              • DeeMoney
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                #57
                Give him Holyfield's heart (but he keeps all his other attributes) and he still loses to Lewis.

                Give him Lewis's body (but he keeps all his other attributes) and he possibly goes down as the best HW ever. He'd essentially be a faster, quicker, slightly bigger Foreman with better combinations.

                Heart wouldn't be an issue because he'd demolish darn near anyone in his path for a longer period of time.

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                  Tyson even without being a comparative coward, has inferior physical attributes and fighting style.

                  The Cuth Damato style is extremely flawed. It's merely designed to get an early ko for Tyson and it lasts up untill the mid rounds before all that fancy movement is almost all but gone.

                  Physically he has a very low bodyfat percentage carrying dry HGH muscles on his 5'10 frame. He would never have the gas tank to beat the greats.

                  So there you have it. Tyson is a top 15 ATG HW. With Holyfield's heart he might crack the top 10. Most importantly with Holyfield's heart, Desiree Washington's life wouldn't be ruined.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BKM-
                    Most importantly with Holyfield's heart, Desiree Washington's life wouldn't be ruined.

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                    • QueensburyRules
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BKM-
                      Tyson even without being a comparative coward, has inferior physical attributes and fighting style.

                      The Cuth Damato style is extremely flawed. It's merely designed to get an early ko for Tyson and it lasts up untill the mid rounds before all that fancy movement is almost all but gone.

                      Physically he has a very low bodyfat percentage carrying dry HGH muscles on his 5'10 frame. He would never have the gas tank to beat the greats.
                      - -U deal in HGH?

                      Good profits?

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