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  • marvdave
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    #41
    what if Tyson wasn't an idiot? what if Tyson trained properly? what if Tyson wasn't a thug? What if Tyson .................etc.etc,etc....

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      #42
      Originally posted by marvdave
      what if Tyson wasn't an idiot? what if Tyson trained properly? what if Tyson wasn't a thug? What if Tyson .................etc.etc,etc....
      - -Heh, Heh!

      To perhaps better answer the OP, I'd say Tyson has to retire prematurely with a "hard heart" like Field did exacerbated by his experimental psychtrophic sedatives that sees him crawling walls upside down on hands and knees while tilting windmills.

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        #43
        Will to win, heart etc is the missing ingredient in Tyson’s list of attributes. If he had the drive of say a Frazier, Marciano or Dempsey he would have a very high all time ranking.

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          #44
          Originally posted by HOUDINI563
          Will to win, heart etc is the missing ingredient in Tyson’s list of attributes. If he had the drive of say a Frazier, Marciano or Dempsey he would have a very high all time ranking.
          - -U in U will to imbecility today?

          Tyson overcame odds far beyond Ali stabile family support.

          Why U always shame U?

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            #45
            Tyson had serious mental issues which were evident any time he was in a losing fight. I am sure these are all from his childhood issue that he never overcame.

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              #46
              Originally posted by HOUDINI563
              Tyson had serious mental issues which were evident any time he was in a losing fight. I am sure these are all from his childhood issue that he never overcame.
              - -Oh, now U got U participation degree in pyschology is it?

              He lost the Olympic finals to begin a record setting career never so witnessed in the heavy division. He KOed 90% of his comp savagely and won 90% of the rounds.

              Lost the 3 all time HOFers who guided him replaced by crooked DKing and gold digger Givens, tries suicide, diagnosed as bipolar, put on dangerous experimental psychotropic drugs, so whaddya participation degree thinks happens to his will to win and his 50 mil trust fund for his retirement?

              U got a participation Duh degree too?

              Duh!!!

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                #47
                Tyson cried like a baby before every amateur bout so full of self doubt.

                As a front runner Tyson did fine. It was in bouts he was losing that all the signs erupted that he was lacking in the intrinsic qualities that make a great fighter an ATG. Tyson however was great when he was dominating. Fell apart when dominated.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                  Will to win, heart etc is the missing ingredient in Tyson’s list of attributes. If he had the drive of say a Frazier, Marciano or Dempsey he would have a very high all time ranking.
                  I think Tyson was fed the whole "you can't lose" mentality. If he had the underdog mentality his skills would have brought him much further. Not that he was invincible, but he would have fought harder in my opinion. Head to head, at his best, he ranks with the very best. But it goes down hill after he was broken and the aura of invincibility was gone.

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                    #49
                    True but I think in part.

                    Under all the bravado Tyson was always an insecure person. Put in situations where he dominated this insecurity did not surface. In situations where he was dominated all those insecurities erupted to the surface leaving a much different tentative fighter.

                    Had he been able to forge a comeback to beat Holyfield, Lewis, Douglas where he was being beaten up we would be talking a different story.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                      Tyson cried like a baby before every amateur bout so full of self doubt.

                      As a front runner Tyson did fine. It was in bouts he was losing that all the signs erupted that he was lacking in the intrinsic qualities that make a great fighter an ATG. Tyson however was great when he was dominating. Fell apart when dominated.
                      - -Rocky reputedly cried like a baby after KOing Joe Louis.
                      Meanwhile U still got the infantile ego centric intellect that dooms U to perpetual buffoonery.

                      Crybaby loser Tyson debuted as a pro to set the world afire with all time records never to be broken.

                      Did it without needing to get knocked down by a novice or a knocked out by a skinny British journeyman who had to wear weights to make the hvy limit or get beat up by another scrawny American hvy and didn't need controversies to win his title nor in his first defense and was usually the smaller guy in the ring, not the bigger as Ali was.

                      Head to had vs Ali from their debut to his last defense before his diagnose that led to his prescription ****tails of dangerous experimental sedatives, he either knocks out or beats Ali until his strippage, it's a guarantee!

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