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  • #81
    Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
    Not in this scenario, clearly.
    So when the TS say's "Would anyone who Klitschko(s) fought beat Ali" what do you think he means?

    Do you think he doesn't mean a prime Ali?

    The TS is obviously asking if any of the fighters that the Klitschko's fought (The versions of them they fought) could beat a prime Ali.

    It's not difficult.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      So when the TS say's "Would anyone who Klitschko(s) fought beat Ali" what do you think he means?

      Do you think he doesn't mean a prime Ali?

      The TS is obviously asking if any of the fighters that the Klitschko's fought (The versions of them they fought) could beat a prime Ali.

      It's not difficult.
      I have no idea what he definitely means. His question was rather vague.

      But thank you for your interpretation.

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      • #83
        Yes its possible that all of them could defeat Ali if they ALL attacked him at the same time!!!! None of those young men would be capable of defeating Ali if your considering their talents against his. Fights aren't won on paper but thats all you have when your considering imaginary match ups. I don't see Lenox defeating Ali neither however I would give Lenox the nod over a few of the older generation fighters. Theres something to be said for a heavyweight who corrects his mistakes and makes retrobution for past failures. Ray

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        • #84
          Lewis definently doesn't beat a prime Ali. With that slow ass overated Jab of his.

          He had an 84 reach which made his jab effective, but it's nothing Ali hasn't seen before, fighting Liston (84) Foreman (82) and im pretty sure Cleveland Williams was packing an 82 as well.

          Holmes Jab was far superior to Lewis. The rest of Lewis arsenal is nothing spectacular I see Ali stopping Lewis late he's from an era based on hard work and determination.

          Not to take anything away from Lewis. ATG for sure. I see him making mincemeat of a lot of opponent's Ali fought as well.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by them_apples View Post
            Lewis definently doesn't beat a prime Ali. With that slow ass overated Jab of his.

            He had an 84 reach which made his jab effective, but it's nothing Ali hasn't seen before, fighting Liston (84) Foreman (82) and im pretty sure Cleveland Williams was packing an 82 as well.

            Holmes Jab was far superior to Lewis. The rest of Lewis arsenal is nothing spectacular I see Ali stopping Lewis late he's from an era based on hard work and determination.

            Not to take anything away from Lewis. ATG for sure.
            You need to review Lewis's fights again, because you're way off base with almost everything you said.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
              You need to review Lewis's fights again, because you're way off base with almost everything you said.
              Well sir, i've personally "reviewed" every single one of Lewis's fights, from Razor Ruddock on up, and everything that fine gentleman stated (to whom your reply was aimed at) was indeed, factually accurate.

              I don't trust a guy with a gastank as questionable as Lewis's in an era of 15 rd'ers, againt the tough, durable & rugid opponents of Ali's era, Nor do i trust his shaky ass chin in said era.

              Lewis is an excellent all around boxer, GREAT finisher & a underrated combination puncher. BUT his jab WAS infact lazy, inconsistent & just plain overrated. This is the same guy that lost the battle of the jab with Ray fucking Mercer for christssake. A GUY WHO HAS NO JAB. If Lewis can get outjabbed by Ray Mercer, he DAMN SURE can get outjabbed and get big looping circles boxed around him by Ali.

              Not only does Ali, Holmes & Liston have a better jab than Lewis, i would say even Wlad has a better & more effective jab than Lewis.
              Last edited by -Deal With It-; 01-24-2012, 07:48 PM.

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              • #87
                Easy now, Ali did get beat at times. I think Lewis could, and Wladimir + Vitali would be very competitive against Ali.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by nomadman View Post
                  You need to review Lewis's fights again, because you're way off base with almost everything you said.
                  You just can not put a conventional Boxer-puncher up against Ali that is slower than he is, it will not work. I don't care if he has power.

                  To beat Ali you need to be a swarmer with a lot of stamina, or borrow Norton's crab style which neutralizes the Boxer-punchers ability to work off the jab, or through some miracle, actually be a faster more skilled Boxer puncher than he is.



                  Lewis definently doesn't beat a prime Ali. With that slow ass overated Jab of his.

                  He had an 84 reach which made his jab effective, but it's nothing Ali hasn't seen before, fighting Liston (84) Foreman (82) and im pretty sure Cleveland Williams was packing an 82 as well.

                  Holmes Jab was far superior to Lewis. The rest of Lewis arsenal is nothing spectacular I see Ali stopping Lewis late he's from an era based on hard work and determination.

                  Not to take anything away from Lewis. ATG for sure. I see him making mincemeat of a lot of opponent's Ali fought as well.
                  Last edited by res; 01-25-2012, 02:44 PM.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by GoogleMe View Post
                    Easy now, Ali did get beat at times. I think Lewis could, and Wladimir + Vitali would be very competitive against Ali.
                    Well Ali was never beaten pre prime, he lost his peak prime due to the ban and lost some close decisions to some great fighters while past prime. I used to think Wlad might give Ali some trouble with his jab, but not after he had a hard time hitting David Haye with it.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
                      Well Ali was never beaten pre prime, he lost his peak prime due to the ban and lost some close decisions to some great fighters while past prime. I used to think Wlad might give Ali some trouble with his jab, but not after he had a hard time hitting David Haye with it.
                      There is no way you can know Ali's peak was exactly at the time he was banned, and not before.

                      And unlike David Haye, Ali hopefully wouldn't run away for the whole fight not wanting to win but only wanting to not get knocked out.

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