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  • #61
    Originally posted by Forza View Post
    On paper Lewis has an advantage over Ali in every single aspect except speed.

    Honestly I could see lewis TKO'ing Ali with ease. 2 different eras, 2 different athletes.
    The only advantage I see here is power. and Ali was usually trumped in that area.

    Reach? it won't do Lewis any good from a practical standpoint, Ali out jabs him.

    Also, I think Foreman and Holmes' post-prime activity in the 90's permanently put to sleep the evolution myth.
    Last edited by res; 01-20-2012, 02:05 PM.

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    • #62
      Why is everyone comparing a prime Ali to a past prime Lennox? That's hardly fair is it?

      Question stated if anyone on either Klits' resume beats Ali, but not necessarily in the condition they fought one of the brothers in. Also didn't state anything about what condition Ali is in.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
        Boxers

        Fighters eat and train the same way they did a half-century ago.
        From the nineties (even eighties) onwards you have to factor in the effect of steroids at the highest levels of the game. That's what most people mean when they talk about "nutritional advances".

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        • #64
          naw not even lewis.

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          • #65
            there's two answers to the question- NO and HELL NO!

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            • #66
              i will say that i feel vitali has a better chance of beating ali than lennox does. vitali always has applied pressure on his opponents used by imposing his jab, size, and range. i feel lennox would be doing his poor mans ali against ali would be ineffective. where as vitalis measured, and increasingly applied pressure would have a better chance at beating ali. i feel ali would beat both confidently im just stating who i think would have the better chance at the upset. vitali v lennox i go with lennox.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by billvp
                well under that question then, I'd think any of them that are still breathing can beat Ali
                Obviously some degree of fairness has to enter into the equation. Prime vs prime, shall we say? Or condition during biggest win vs condition vs biggest win. Not prime vs slightly past-prime-and-out-of-shape-last-fight-before-retirement.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
                  From the nineties (even eighties) onwards you have to factor in the effect of steroids at the highest levels of the game. That's what most people mean when they talk about "nutritional advances".
                  They actually don't.

                  When most people say "Nutritional advances" that's exactly what they mean.

                  They're referring to upgrades in Nutrition. Meaning foods.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
                    Obviously some degree of fairness has to enter into the equation. Prime vs prime, shall we say? Or condition during biggest win vs condition vs biggest win. Not prime vs slightly past-prime-and-out-of-shape-last-fight-before-retirement.
                    People are comparing a past prime Lewis to a prime Ali because that's what version Klitschko fought.

                    A prime Lewis isn't on Vitali's resume.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      People are comparing a past prime Lewis to a prime Ali because that's what version Klitschko fought.

                      A prime Lewis isn't on Vitali's resume.
                      If you're going to insist on the 37 year old Lewis as an opponent then I'll insist on a 37 year old Ali as his opponent. Who wins that?

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