RJJ vs Hagler

[Toney616]

The fact that you put me on ignore whenever I answer your questions says it all for me.

You can answer peoples questions while they are on your ignore list. The reason I put you on ignore is for your tendency to twist my words and go waaaaay off topic.

You praised Mugabi's 25-0 record as "insane stats" without once mentioning his weak opposition. It's what you didn't say(double standards) that stands out.

Even big punchers like Tyson and McClellan couldnt go 25 with 25 ko wins. It's obvious he could **** from just watching the Hagler fight.

Glen Johnson

Glen Johnson was a green contender when he fought Hopkins. After that loss he would move up to smw and basically become a journeyman, his smw record is something like 8-8

Antwon Echols,

Antwon Echols was a B level fighter. His best win is Brewer for crying out loud

John David jackson

Jackson was finished after his ko loss to Castro. After that he would lose to a journeyman getting dropped in the process. The ibf should of dropped from the no 1 spot but they kept him there. He basically quit against Hopkins and lost his very next fight.

Robert Allen,

lol

were all considered "top" fighters (contenders) when Hopkins beat them.

Journeyman and washed up fighters are top contenders?

Your hatred for Hopkins is as obvious as your twisted bias against his career. Don't even pretend you're being objective or accurate here.

As if you are any more objective than me. Allen..lol

No more than when you implied Hagler ducked Mike McCallum

Way off topic
I said Hagler like the rest of the Fab Four saw McCallum as high risk/low reward, so they ignored him. McCallum has a right to be pissed off.

or that Ali was clearly beaten in the second Norton fight..

The second fight with Norton was close as hell and could of easily gone the other way.

.......And don't waste your time writing a two page 500 word response because I'm not going to waste time reading the entire post

And you wonder why I keep you on ignore.

[Vadrigar.]

??????????
To call someone overrated is not hate. It doesnt even mean the fighter isnt good, it just means they are not as good as everyone think they are.

You said vastly overrated and I consider this hate.

"dude is vastly overrated"

"Dude"? really?? smh....

[Toney616]

You said vastly overrated and I consider this hate."dude is vastly overrated"

He is overrated. That dude won a lot of his fights by fouling and wrestling.

[SCtrojansbaby]

lol here we go again how was Johnson green? He was 27 years old.

Also its not just the fact that Hopkins beat him its that he is the only guy to ever stop Glen Johnson and that is saying A LOT when you consider the guys who Johnson has fought

[McGoorty]

Sleeping

lol here we go again how was Johnson green? He was 27 years old.

Also its not just the fact that Hopkins beat him its that he is the only guy to ever stop Glen Johnson and that is saying A LOT when you consider the guys who Johnson has fought

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[joseph5620]

You can answer peoples questions while they are on your ignore list. The reason I put you on ignore is for your tendency to twist my words and go waaaaay off topic.

Even big punchers like Tyson and McClellan couldnt go 25 with 25 ko wins. It's obvious he could **** from just watching the Hagler fight.

Glen Johnson was a green contender when he fought Hopkins. After that loss he would move up to smw and basically become a journeyman, his smw record is something like 8-8

Antwon Echols was a B level fighter. His best win is Brewer for crying out loud

Jackson was finished after his ko loss to Castro. After that he would lose to a journeyman getting dropped in the process. The ibf should of dropped from the no 1 spot but they kept him there. He basically quit against Hopkins and lost his very next fight.

lol

Journeyman and washed up fighters are top contenders?
As if you are any more objective than me. Allen..lol

Way off topic
I said Hagler like the rest of the Fab Four saw McCallum as high risk/low reward, so they ignored him. McCallum has a right to be pissed off.

The second fight with Norton was close as hell and could of easily gone the other way.

And you wonder why I keep you on ignore.

OK. So because Tyson and McCllelan didn't go 25-0 with 25 KO's that somehow makes Mugabi's record more impressive than either fighter LOL? That's ironic for someone who calls Hopkins opponents "bums" and "Journeyman" And you keep me on ignore because you don't like be called out on your bull****tt. That's called a coward.


Name an opponent who Mugabi knocked out better than even that version of Johnson or Antwon Echols, John David Jackson, Robert Allen...I'll wait.




It's comical how you deny having me on ignore in one sentence and then acknowledge that you "keep me on ignore" in your closing sentence. Obviously it can be turned on and off for your convenience. Similar to what Tunney does when he gets slapped around. And "close as hell" is not a "clear Norton win" which is what you said originally.You obviously failed with that statement because you didn't bother watching the fight before making your biased statement.


And it's good to see you're still rewriting history for Hagler/McCallum.....

[Vadrigar.]

OK. So because Tyson and McCllelan didn't go 25-0 with 25 KO's that somehow makes Mugabi's record more impressive than either fighter LOL? That's ironic for someone who calls Haglers opponents "bums" and "Journeyman" And you keep me on ignore because you don't like be called out on your bull****tt. That's called a coward.


Name an opponent who Mugabi knocked out better than even that version of Johnson or Antwon Echols, John David Jackson, Robert Allen...I'll wait.




It's comical how you deny having me on ignore in one sentence and then acknowledge that you "keep me on ignore" in your closing sentence. Obviously it can be turned on and off for your convenience. Similar to what Tunney does when he gets slapped around. And "close as hell" is not a "clear Norton win" which is what you said originally.You obviously failed with that statement because you didn't bother watching the fight before making your biased statement.


And it's good to see you're still rewriting history for Hagler/McCallum.....

In the first paragraph did you mean to say Hopkins' opponents?

[joseph5620]

In the first paragraph did you mean to say Hopkins' opponents?

Yes. Thank you. I'll *Edit*

[Toney616]

[B][I]OK. So because Tyson and McCllelan didn't go 25-0 with 25 KO's that somehow makes Mugabi's record more impressive than either fighter LOL? That's ironic for someone who calls Hopkins opponents "bums" and "Journeyman" And you keep me on ignore because you don't like be called out on your bull****tt. That's called a coward.

When fighters make their pro debut they are put in the ring with opponents of varying quality. Even if they can **** their is a good chance they might come up against an opponent durable enough to go the distance with them.

And now for the last time - I never said Mugabi's resume was impressive I said his KO record was impressive.

Name an opponent who Mugabi knocked out better than even that version of Johnson or Antwon Echols, John David Jackson, Robert Allen...I'll wait.

Mugabi would of koed all of those guys you mentioned, except maybe Johnson.

John David Jackson got koed by Castro he would fight a string of journeyman before getting dropped and losing a decision to Abdullah Rahaman who was a journeyman with a record of 9-6.

He would quit against Hopkins in a fight which was basically a mauling foul fest

Allen didnt achieve anything at mw or in any other division.

Echols quit against Hopkins in a fight which was a mauling foul fest. He wasnt punching back so the ref stopped it.

The Glen Johnson fight was stopped because of a bad cut

So of all the guys who named only one of them got koed by Hopkins (Allen) and he didnt do anything worth mentioning. GREAT

[Toney616]

"close as hell" is not a "clear Norton win" which is what you said originally.

The fight easily could of went the other way. And why are we talking about Ali in a thread about Jones-Hagler???

And it's good to see you're still rewriting history for Hagler/McCallum.....

I said all of the fab four saw McCallum as too high risk/low reward so they looked the other way when he was trying to get a fight with those guys. Do I think Hagler turned him down because he was scared of him? Of course not. I'm sure if McCallum was Haglers mandatory he would of faced him

If you check out Pastrono thread you will see I said the same thing there.

The problem I have with you is you keep twisting my words and going way off topic. Ali? Mugabi? McCallum? In a thread about a fantasy matchup between Rjj and Hagler?

lol at you listing Echols, Johnson, Jackson and Allen as great wins for Hopkins.
All those guys where fringe contenders/journeyman when they fought Hopkins.