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  • #61
    Originally posted by Steak View Post
    Listen, I dont kow how much more obvious I can make this.

    Jackson at that point in his career was getting knocked out by 1-1 bums. Jeffries beating that 1-1 bum is a more significant win than Jackson.

    Would you list a win over a guy that was the level of a 1-1 bum as a decent win?

    It does not take away from the fact that Jackson is on Jeffs resume and considered an over all ATG. I mean we are talking about great resumes, right? Jackson showed some of his old form against Jeffries. Their are newspaper accounts that attest to it. For a young guy with so little fights thats a nice little test against a great name. A much better win than over a 1-1 bum as you put it. But using that as an example isn't going to work unless you can provide evidence of how Jackson actually fought. We don't know if Jeff finished him off. We don't know if he was out of shape looking for a payday. We do know he showed some of his old form against Jeffries though. Nothing great, but a decent win that has significance because of who Jackson was.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

      It does not take away from the fact that Jackson is on Jeffs resume and considered an over all ATG. I mean we are talking about great resumes, right? Jackson showed some of his old form against Jeffries. Their are newspaper accounts that attest to it. For a young guy with so little fights thats a nice little test against a great name. A much better win than over a 1-1 bum as you put it. But using that as an example isn't going to work unless you can provide evidence of how Jackson actually fought. We don't know if Jeff finished him off. We don't know if he was out of shape looking for a payday. We do know he showed some of his old form against Jeffries though. Nothing great, but a decent win that has significance because of who Jackson was.
      When is more important than who, Jackson should not have been fighting anyone at all at that point, it doesn't add to his resume. We know all the facts I layed out earlier which you have conveniently ignored in this post.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
        When is more important than who, Jackson should not have been fighting anyone at all at that point, it doesn't add to his resume. We know all the facts I layed out earlier which you have conveniently ignored in this post.
        I haven't "conveniently" ignored anything. If you want to go on "when" as I HAVE been, than after only 8 fights it is a decent win and not something to simply be called "meaningless".

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        • #64
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
          I haven't "conveniently" ignored anything. If you want to go on "when" as I HAVE been, than after only 8 fights it is a decent win and not something to simply be called "meaningless".
          Against an opponent who shouldn't be fighting full stop, I've could never imagine anyone giving a fighter credit for beating someone in that kind of condition.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
            Against an opponent who shouldn't be fighting full stop, I've could never imagine anyone giving a fighter credit for beating someone in that kind of condition.

            The thing is I am not giving it credit as some great win. Im saying at that stage of Jeffries career it was not meaningless. No more, no less. You're acting as if the fight shouldn't even be counted at all.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              The thing is I am not giving it credit as some great win. Im saying at that stage of Jeffries career it was not meaningless. No more, no less. You're acting as if the fight shouldn't even be counted at all.
              I feel it shouldn't be counted at all in terms of resume.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
                I feel it shouldn't be counted at all in terms of resume.
                Than we'll have to agree to disagree my friend.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  Can an argument be made for Ezzard Charles? He's atleast up there.

                  Charley Burley x2
                  Archie Moore x3
                  Lloyd Marshall x2
                  Jimmy Bivins x4
                  Joey Maxim x5
                  Jersey Joe Walcott
                  Joe Louis

                  Along with a long list of very very good wins.

                  I wouldn't say he has THE best but I do think he's up there.
                  Well Ezzard has a great resume...but not on par with Greb, Sam or Rosenbloom.

                  Langford holds several wins over Harry Wills, Joe Jeannette and Sam McVea- all of whom are arguably all time top 30 heavyweights. And he also stopped O'Brien and Kid Norfolk- two top 20 all time light-heavyweights unquestionably. He beat Joe Gans a top 5 lightweight and barbados Joe Walcott. P4P a great resume. He was half blind and 44 years old when he flattened a certain young guy called Tiger Flowers.


                  For me rosenbloom had the best resume. He won 87 times against a top 10 contender when they were rated in the top 10 out of some 106 bouts. He beat Lou Nova, Tiger Flowers, Dave Shade ,Lou Scozza ,Tiger" Flowers ,Leo Lomski ,Jim Braddock ,"Tiger" Jack Fox ,John Henry lewis, Mickey Walker ,Lee Ramage,King Levinsky,Jimmy Slattery. Drew with Harry Greb.

                  Now lets nit pick a bit about the quality.

                  John H Lewis and Jimmy Slattery ---great LH Champions
                  Jim Braddock -- Heavy Champion
                  Bob Godwin held a version of a Championship
                  Mickey Walker held titles at 2 weights and fought a draw with heavyweight champ Jack Sharkey
                  Pete Latzo was a champion
                  Leo Lomski was a murderous hitting LH who floored and nearly kod Tommy Loughran.
                  Ace Hudkins was a hard hitting contender
                  Patsy Perroni was a fringe heavy contender
                  Al Ettore was a heavy contender
                  Lee Ramage good heavy.
                  Lou Nova fought Joe Louis for the Heavyweight title, beat Baer.
                  King Levinsky -- Heavy contender.

                  Greb has a spectacular resume too. But I pick Rosenbloom.

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                  • #69
                    Though I side with Greb, Charles is always in the discussion. He is no worse than top-5.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Greatest1942 View Post
                      Well Ezzard has a great resume...but not on par with Greb, Sam or Rosenbloom.

                      Langford holds several wins over Harry Wills, Joe Jeannette and Sam McVea- all of whom are arguably all time top 30 heavyweights. And he also stopped O'Brien and Kid Norfolk- two top 20 all time light-heavyweights unquestionably. He beat Joe Gans a top 5 lightweight and barbados Joe Walcott. P4P a great resume. He was half blind and 44 years old when he flattened a certain young guy called Tiger Flowers.


                      For me rosenbloom had the best resume. He won 87 times against a top 10 contender when they were rated in the top 10 out of some 106 bouts. He beat Lou Nova, Tiger Flowers, Dave Shade ,Lou Scozza ,Tiger" Flowers ,Leo Lomski ,Jim Braddock ,"Tiger" Jack Fox ,John Henry lewis, Mickey Walker ,Lee Ramage,King Levinsky,Jimmy Slattery. Drew with Harry Greb.

                      Now lets nit pick a bit about the quality.

                      John H Lewis and Jimmy Slattery ---great LH Champions
                      Jim Braddock -- Heavy Champion
                      Bob Godwin held a version of a Championship
                      Mickey Walker held titles at 2 weights and fought a draw with heavyweight champ Jack Sharkey
                      Pete Latzo was a champion
                      Leo Lomski was a murderous hitting LH who floored and nearly kod Tommy Loughran.
                      Ace Hudkins was a hard hitting contender
                      Patsy Perroni was a fringe heavy contender
                      Al Ettore was a heavy contender
                      Lee Ramage good heavy.
                      Lou Nova fought Joe Louis for the Heavyweight title, beat Baer.
                      King Levinsky -- Heavy contender.

                      Greb has a spectacular resume too. But I pick Rosenbloom.
                      I feel Greb's resume is stronger than Charles' personally I was just saying he's up there and not really mentioned alot. Well, he is starting to now atleast.

                      We discussed about Rosnebloom's lengthy resume in another thread if you can recall

                      I'm just saying that Ezzard Charles has one of the storngest resumes I've ever seen. Not the strongest but it's certainly up there.

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