Best fighters of the 90's?

[RubenSonny]

give me YOUR lists!

I'm good thanks

[pacquia0]

The thing is....he did. Chavez was seen to have been at the top of his game and in his physical prime. You simply cannot change this because it doesn't suit your argument.

Whether he was seen to be at the top of his game or not doesnt matter. What matters is whether he was at the top of his game or not, and he clearly wasnt. Im sure people thought Tyson was going to beat Lewis or Ali was going to beat Holmes.

If Chavez was prime then, Whitaker was prime when he got dominated by Trinidad.

[IronDanHamza]

Whether he was seen to be at the top of his game or not doesnt matter. What matters is whether he was at the top of his game or not, and he clearly wasnt. Im sure people thought Tyson was going to beat Lewis or Ali was going to beat Holmes.

If Chavez was prime then, Whitaker was prime when he got dominated by Trinidad.

Except, Whitaker was blatently majorly on the decline when he lost to Trinidad and was quite frankly done.

And Tyson and Ali were both blatently shot.

So yeah, not remotely the same as Chavez he didn't show signs of decline in his fights, infact, the exact opposite.

[JAB5239]

Whether he was seen to be at the top of his game or not doesnt matter. What matters is whether he was at the top of his game or not, and he clearly wasnt. Im sure people thought Tyson was going to beat Lewis or Ali was going to beat Holmes.

If Chavez was prime then, Whitaker was prime when he got dominated by Trinidad.

You're quickly becoming a joke my friend. Whitaker was 36 and his skills clearly eroded against Trinidad in the second to last fight of his career. What fight exactly did Chavez show severely eroded skills in before Whitaker?

[Steak]

Chavez was faded somewhat by the time he fought Whitaker, but it was very little and offset by the fact that Whitaker probably wasnt quite at his tip top best either.

Whitaker was on coke and had showed obvious signs of decline before the Trinidad fight, ie against Rivera and Hurtado.

you really cant compare the two.

[pacquia0]

You're quickly becoming a joke my friend. Whitaker was 36 and his skills clearly eroded against Trinidad in the second to last fight of his career. What fight exactly did Chavez show severely eroded skills in before Whitaker?

Chavez had fought 80+ fights and was near the end of his carrear. Like I said there was a gradual decline with Chavez in his stamina and ability to cut of the ring. Chavez is hardly going to turn into some bum overnight.

Chavez was faded somewhat by the time he fought Whitaker, but it was very little and offset by the fact that Whitaker probably wasnt quite at his tip top best either.

Whitaker was on coke and had showed obvious signs of decline before the Trinidad fight, ie against Rivera and Hurtado.

you really cant compare the two.

Chavez was on coke/alcohol. So you obviously can compare the two.

[IronDanHamza]

Chavez was faded somewhat by the time he fought Whitaker, but it was very little and offset by the fact that Whitaker probably wasnt quite at his tip top best either.

Whitaker was on coke and had showed obvious signs of decline before the Trinidad fight, ie against Rivera and Hurtado.

you really cant compare the two.

He didn't look to faded to me.

He looked pretty fantastic actually, IMO.

[pacquia0]

He didn't look to faded to me.

He looked pretty fantastic actually, IMO.

Thats down to how great a fighter he is, that even when faded he can look fantastic.

[nachorjj]

Roy Jones Jr
Pernell Whitaker
Lennox Lewis
James Toney
Oscar De La Hoya
Evander Holyfield
Julio Cesar Chavez
Bernard Hopkins
Felix Trinidad
Rid**** Bowe

[Steak]

He didn't look to faded to me.

He looked pretty fantastic actually, IMO.

thats because he was still a damn good fighter. but I wouldnt say that he was quite as good as he was at lightweight 5 years earlier.

lets not forget that Chavez was on his fourth weight class and after tons of fights, not to mention he would show more obvious signs of wear and tear only 4 months after the Whitaker loss.

Whitaker still beat an amazing fighter, and it might be the best single win of the 90s till today.