Best fighters of the 90's?

[pacquia0]

I have to respectfully disagree. He had just turned 31, had hardly had a tough fight in years and was in either the 1 or 2 spot p4p. Im not sure how you can say he wasn't prime. He was simply dominated by the better fighter.

His prime ended after the Rosario fight when he started drinking, ******* and not training as hard.

[JAB5239]

His prime ended after the Rosario fight when he started drinking, ******* and not training as hard.

You're kidding, right? How in the world does a prime end at 25 years old when you're not only physically dominant, but mentally as well?

[StarshipTrooper]

I bet I've scored more of them than you, jackass. Gimme your scorecard or stfu.

Son, I've been following boxing for 38 years. I'd hazard to guess I've scored more fights in any given 10 year period then you've WATCHED in your entire life. Now graduate from the Special Ed school or STFU Junior.

Poet

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=Pastrano;10405615]

Coz I've scored it for Buddy, 115-114. It was a close fight, but Buddy won.

So you believe this should be counted for a win, but JCC's draw with Pea shouldn't be counted as a loss?

[$Bullsfam$]

Gimme your top 10 lists p4p and name the guy you thought was best in each division.

p4p:
1. Roy Jones Jr.
2. James Toney
3. Oscar De La Hoya
4. Pernell Whitaker
5. Julio Cesar Chavez
6. Terry Norris
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Erik Morales
9. Kostya Tszyu
10. Ricardo Lopez

Heavyweight: Evander Holyfield
Cruiserweight: Orlin Norris
Lt Heavyweight: Dariusz Michalczewski
S. Middleweight: Roy Jones Jr.
Middleweight: James Toney
Lt Middleweight: Terry Norris
Welterweight: Oscar De La Hoya
Lt Welterweight: Julio Cesar Chavez ('90-'95)/Kostya Tszyu ('95-99)
Lightweight: Shane Mosley (Whitaker '90-'91)
S Featherweight: Azumah Nelson
Featherweight: Naseem Hamed
S Bantamweight: Erik Morales
Bantamweight: Orlando Canizales
S Flyweight: Johnny Tapia
Flyweight: Mark Johnson
Lt Flyweight: Michael Carbajal
Minimumweight: Ricardo Lopez

I really think you hold alotta pent up hatred towards Whitaker hahaha Obviously.

1. Pernell Whitaker(Roy Jones simply can't hold a candle to his resume)
2. Roy Jones
3. Holyfield
4. Chavez
5. Tyson
6. Lennox
7. Trinidad
8. Oscar
9. Toney
10. Hopkins

[pacquia0]

You're kidding, right? How in the world does a prime end at 25 years old when you're not only physically dominant, but mentally as well?

Its simple if you dont train properly then you wont be as physically dominant. If you do coke and alcohol in excess then your hardly going to be in a good mental state.

[Pastrano]

I really think you hold alotta pent up hatred towards Whitaker hahaha Obviously.

1. Pernell Whitaker(Roy Jones simply can't hold a candle to his resume)
2. Roy Jones
3. Holyfield
4. Chavez
5. Tyson
6. Lennox
7. Trinidad
8. Oscar
9. Toney
10. Hopkins

No, its just that Whitaker wasn't as complete as the first 3. He had superb defensive skills and his infighting was good, but he lacked power. At 135 he might've had SOME power, but even there he wasn't among the hardest hitters clearly. I had to laugh watching him trying to hurt Buddy McGirt with single blows. Not only was Buddy a more natural ww than him, he also could take a decent punch.

Roy was simply amazing, he had it all, including power. Toney could hit pretty hard too, esp at 160 and 168. Oscar we know could hit and had speed (another thing Whitaker wasn't famous for) and threw great combinations.

[JAB5239]

Its simple if you dont train properly then you wont be as physically dominant. If you do coke and alcohol in excess then your hardly going to be in a good mental state.

Who wasn't he as physically dominant against? Most of his fights up until Whitaker were 3rd or 4th round Ko's.

[$Bullsfam$]

No, its just that Whitaker wasn't as complete as the first 3. He had superb defensive skills and his infighting was good, but he lacked power. At 135 he might've had SOME power, but even there he wasn't among the hardest hitters clearly. I had to laugh watching him trying to hurt Buddy McGirt with single blows. Not only was Buddy a more natural ww than him, he also could take a decent punch.

Roy was simply amazing, he had it all, including power. Toney could hit pretty hard too, esp at 160 and 168. Oscar we know could hit and had speed (another thing Whitaker wasn't famous for) and threw great combinations.

I acan agree with that the only thing is Whitaker did it so ****in good he was almost untouchable for a minute and didn't know we were ranking on who was a more complete fighter.

[IronDanHamza]

No, its just that Whitaker wasn't as complete as the first 3. He had superb defensive skills and his infighting was good, but he lacked power. At 135 he might've had SOME power, but even there he wasn't among the hardest hitters clearly. I had to laugh watching him trying to hurt Buddy McGirt with single blows. Not only was Buddy a more natural ww than him, he also could take a decent punch.

Roy was simply amazing, he had it all, including power. Toney could hit pretty hard too, esp at 160 and 168. Oscar we know could hit and had speed (another thing Whitaker wasn't famous for) and threw great combinations.

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, though.

Although he was as complete as those guys, even if he wasn't, what does that have to do with if someone is greater than another?