Roy Jones on his place in history

[StarshipTrooper]

Damn, good post and informative... thanks.

By the way where's Jab?

On vacation I think :thinking9:

[StarshipTrooper]

Damn... Who could beat ROY? lol, No slow ass, no Technique havn, slow handed old school fighter could have, I know that.

Ok Junior: The adults are talking in here now so off to your play-pen. Call us when you hit puberty.

Poet

[THE REED]

What about Michael Moorer and Spinks..

[StarshipTrooper]

What about Michael Moorer and Spinks..

I'd go with Spinks. Moorer showed enough at Light-Heavy to know he was very good there.....the problem is his opposition was too weak to really know just HOW good. Spinks on the other hand was undefeated against quite possibly the best era in division history. Too many people only remember Spinks as "that dude that got sparked in 81 seconds". Well, that was at Heavyweight were Spinks simply wasn't that good (even his trainer the great Eddie Futch said he wasn't). At Light-Heavy he was a beast and that's what gets forgotten. Then again too many people seem to think that Heavyweight is the only division that counts :rolleyes9:

Poet

[joseph5620]

Interestingly enough I'd favor Jones over Bob Foster; though if Foster lands a bomb.....Michael Spinks is one I have a sneaking su****ion would beat Jones though I can't really put my finger on why. Probably a case where since the talent level is pretty damn close (yes Spinks WAS that talented.....at Light-Heavy) Spinks just matches up well with Roy.

Poet

I think Spinks style would pose major problems for Jones. Spinks was difficult to hit cleanly and that could take Jones out of his rhythm. Spinks also had the power to take Jones out. I would pick Spinks in that fight. I wouldn't pick Jones over Foster either. That Foster jab/reach could be a nightmare for Jones. That as well as Foster's scary power.

[StarshipTrooper]

I think Spinks style would pose major problems for Jones. Spinks was difficult to hit cleanly and that could take Jones out of his rhythm. Spinks also had the power to take Jones out. I would pick Spinks in that fight. I wouldn't pick Jones over Foster either. That Foster jab/reach could be a nightmare for Jones. That as well as Foster's scary power.

Sure, if Foster could land one of his big shots cleanly then it's lights out for Jones. But could he though? I have a hard time seeing Foster land anything other than the jab cleanly and he's not taking Roy out with a jab. Foster had monster power but wasn't that quick or fluid with his power shots which I think he'd have to be to land them cleanly on someone as fast as Roy.

Poet

[joseph5620]

Sure, if Foster could land one of his big shots cleanly then it's lights out for Jones. But could he though? I have a hard time seeing Foster land anything other than the jab cleanly and he's not taking Roy out with a jab. Foster had monster power but wasn't that quick or fluid with his power shots which I think he'd have to be to land them cleanly on someone as fast as Roy.

Poet

That's possible. I think Jones is capable of beating any of them. But if money is involved I would probably still go with Foster

[IMDAZED]

I'd go with Spinks. Moorer showed enough at Light-Heavy to know he was very good there.....the problem is his opposition was too weak to really know just HOW good. Spinks on the other hand was undefeated against quite possibly the best era in division history. Too many people only remember Spinks as "that dude that got sparked in 81 seconds". Well, that was at Heavyweight were Spinks simply wasn't that good (even his trainer the great Eddie Futch said he wasn't). At Light-Heavy he was a beast and that's what gets forgotten. Then again too many people seem to think that Heavyweight is the only division that counts :rolleyes9:

Poet

I love Roy but Spinks would've got him. He was unorthodox in his own way and would've kept Roy on the end of his punches. That right hand would land behind the jab at some point or another. A prime Roy always had a solid chin and, when pressed, proved resilient. He might've survived the Spinks Jinx but his hand wouldn't be raised at the end of the day. I see Spinks making an already defensive-minded Roy even more wary, en route to a comfortable UD.

Roy would take Moorer into deep waters and drown him IMO.

[joseph5620]

I love Roy but Spinks would've got him. He was unorthodox in his own way and would've kept Roy on the end of his punches. That right hand would land behind the jab at some point or another. A prime Roy always had a solid chin and, when pressed, proved resilient. He might've survived the Spinks Jinx but his hand wouldn't be raised at the end of the day. I see Spinks making an already defensive-minded Roy even more wary, en route to a comfortable UD.

Roy would take Moorer into deep waters and drown him IMO.

I agree. I think Moorer is overrated at 175. He never beat anybody significant at that weight and Jones is the more proven fighter at 175. I think he would pick Moorer apart at that weight.

[Brockton Lip]

I'd favor Spinks, Charles, Moorer, Archie Moore, and Qawi over him. Tunney and Foster are 50/50 although maybe Tunney should be favored as well.