Did Buster Douglas Really Beat Mike Tyson??

[SuzieQ49]

maybe prime foreman but not 1990s foreman.

tyson was too fast for a 1990s foreman

[Smashing]

Douglas won fair and square...great performance that night..

[Verstyle]

Pete Rademacher, Jack Skelly, Davey Moore, Leon Spinks, Saensak Muangsurin, Rafael Lovera, etc...

There's been a few.

geeeeez yogi. wanted him to say it not u.

[Verstyle]

And while somebody is checking out the post-Rooney version of Tyson, be sure to throw in the Nino Ribalta fight too (with Rooney), and notice the lack of head movement, the headhunting, the lack of combination punching, the looping of his punches, etc., from Tyson in that fight.

actually i watch that fight everyday when im at work onmy cell phone and my computer. ppl really overrate his performance u guys need to look at it more clearer. he did bodyshots alot and good headmovement. and remember i watch it everyday so i know what im saying

[smasher]

I'll **** your wife mutha****a!

A nice combination. A moron, coward and a rapist. You have more in common with your hero than you realize.

[smasher]

- considering foremans big time experience in amatuers,



gregorio peralta- one of the best guys foreman beat pre title, and thats not saying much. peralta also gave foreman fits losing a close decision in the first one. peralta was a very good underated fighter at LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHT, but peralta never did anything at heavyweight.


KO 2 terry sorrell- 4-14 tomatoe can bum
KO 2 miguel angel paez-
KO 2 Ted Gullick- 15-5 journeyman
KO 2 clarence boone- 4-18 complete bum
KO 2 joe murphy goodwin- 0-14. THATS PATHETIC

Foreman had a grand total of 32 amateur fights. That's not called big time experience.

Unklike my breakdown of Tysons competition you conveniently ignored the fact that Peralta had 83 professional wins in 97 fights.

You also conveniently left out the fact that Miguel Angel Paez had 47 wins.

Unlike Tyson's legion of The Blind And In Denial, I accept Foreman's 90's losses.

He was beaten fairly by Holyfield. Miraculously I do not blame his 10 years of inactivity like Tyson's 4 years of inactivity.

He was beaten fairly by Morrison who chose to hit and move. Miraculously, I don't blame the loss of trainer Archie Moore on Foreman's inabilty to cut off the ring.

He was beaten by Briggs but I thought Foreman won as did many others. Even still I make no excuses. Miraculously, I do not blame the loss on Foreman being past his prime at 47 like Tyson was at 22.

Those are Foreman's only 3 losses in the 90's. Never knocked out, never knocked down. Can Tyson say the same?

[BKM-]

A nice combination. A moron, coward and a rapist. You have more in common with your hero than you realize.

Anything is better than a 40 year old white perv.

Tyson KO1 Foreman . I see you realize you're loosing this argument so you just go back to boxrec lol.

[Yogi]

actually i watch that fight everyday when im at work onmy cell phone and my computer. ppl really overrate his performance u guys need to look at it more clearer. he did bodyshots alot and good headmovement. and remember i watch it everyday so i know what im saying

It doesn't take more than one watch to see that was a subpar performance by Tyson (I've watched it plenty, though), so it really doesn't matter to me if you've seen that fight every day or not.

Besides some good left hooks at the beginning of the 3rd round & a good combo down there in the 7th, I don't see much body work from Tyson, as he rarely threw more than one or two in the other remaining rounds...His head movement was also lacking for most of the fight (especially from about the 3rd round on) as he very often walked straight into Ribalta's jab after throwing a little feeble jab himself and then falling directly into a clinch, which he very often initiated. In that fight, Tyson's head movement consisted of him ducking a few right hand punches from Ribalta that any fighter could've seen coming a mile away & reacted to (Ribalta had friggin slow hands!), and he very, very rarely came inside with that normal bobbing-and-weaving movement he did so effectively against other oppoents.

The only rounds where I thought we saw some good combination punching from Tyson was in the 7th and 8th, and I don't think it's any coincidence that Tyson was finally able to hurt Ribalta in the 8th and send his mouth piece flying after putting the combinations together...The vast majority of the rest of the fight saw Tyson loading up on his powershots, and trying to end things with one big, looping punch to the Ribalta's head.

How many times did we see that patented right to the body/right uppercut to the chin combination of Tyson's?

One? Twice? Maybe three times?

It wasn't a very impressive performance by Tyson through these eyes (one of the two or three worst of pre-jail Tyson), and apparently even Mike himself would agree with me as evident by his post fight comments;

"I had a bad night."

[Heckler]

prime foreman vs prime tyson- goes either way



1990s foreman vs prime 1980s tyson- tyson by devastating early KO

At one stage i thought you were a man of reason and logic, but then you come out stating that Foreman vs Tyson (in respective primes) could go either way (50/50). I thought even the biggest nutsucking Tyson fans realised Tyson would have very little chance against a prime Foreman. What Tyson was going to develop the ability to box on the backfoot? Or he was going to go TO Foreman and inflict sufficent damage without getting collected? Joe Frazier was less skilled and physically gifted then Tyson, however was much tougher, had a stronger mentality, and was not scared of anybody - these things offset the disparity in skill and natural gifts. Joe Frazier was obliterated by Foreman.

[SuzieQ49]

At one stage i thought you were a man of reason and logic, but then you come out stating that Foreman vs Tyson (in respective primes) could go either way (50/50). I thought even the biggest nutsucking Tyson fans realised Tyson would have very little chance against a prime Foreman. What Tyson was going to develop the ability to box on the backfoot? Or he was going to go TO Foreman and inflict sufficent damage without getting collected? Joe Frazier was less skilled and physically gifted then Tyson, however was much tougher, had a stronger mentality, and was not scared of anybody - these things offset the disparity in skill and natural gifts. Joe Frazier was obliterated by Foreman.

joe frazier was also a horrible starter while tyson was an extremley fast starter. unlike frazier, tyson had a devastating two fisted KO attack, threw better combinations, and had ridiculous handspeed........all traits that will enable him to beat george. speed kills, tyson was to fast for george, he will beat him to the punch ever moment. i favor tysons short straight blows over foremans wide loops.

now im not saying tyson will win, but to say he doesnt have a chance is ludicrous considering tysons devastating traits.