Did Buster Douglas Really Beat Mike Tyson??

[BKM-]

Really? It took Tyson 3 rounds to KO Larry Sims. 2 fights later it took the 52 year old Shavers 1 Round to KO Sims!

Hey! The Larry Sims fight is the only Tyson fight i don't have. Where the **** did you watch that? I heard it was never recorded on tape.

[smasher]

he never faced the 2nd greatest heavyweight puncher of all time like he would with tyson

This is ****ing more hilarious by the minute. Look who Tyson was padding his record against on his way to a title fight.

In 1985 Tyson went 15-0 with 15 KO's. Only one novice opponent would retire with a winning record (6-1). Not one of these 15 opponents ever beat a world class opponent and they accounted for 154 KO losses. ****ing incredible! The glass jaw brigade!

1986 isn't much better and this is the year Tyson fans will tell you his prime started.

David Jaco KO'd in 1 retires with a losing record and is KO'd 18 times.

Mike Jameson KO'd in 5 retires with a losing record and is KO'd 4 times.

Jesse Ferguson was probably one of Tyson's best opponents although his only notable wins were against Ray Mercer and Buster Douglas while he retired having been KO'd 6 times. Even still he finished the fight with Tyson on his feet and was only floored once in 6 rounds before the referee disqualified him for holding.

Steve Zouski retires with a losing record and is KO'd 9 times. In his 2nd fight after getting KO'd by Tyson in 3, 267 lb George Foreman who hasn't fought in 10 years takes only one round more than Tyson scoring a KO in 4.

James Tillis past his prime and now a decent journeyman loses a close decision to Tyson. Tillis never beat a top 10 heavyweight in his career and was KO'd 11 times.

Mitch Green. Here's a switch. A Tyson opponent who doesn't have multiple KO losses on his record. Green who never defeated a ranked fighter and retired 19-6 goes the distance with Tyson and is never floored.

Reggie Gross KO'd in 1. A confidence booster for Tyson who has failed to stop his last 2 opponents. Fought the first half of his career as a light-heavyweight and was KO'd 5 times in compiling an 18-8 career record.

William Hosea KO'd in 1. Another winning record! Retires 11-7 and is KO'd twice.

Lorenzo Boyd. KO'd in 2. Retires with a losing record. Incredibly Boyd suffers 41 KO's in 54 career losses!

Marvis Frazier KO'd in 1. Soft puncher with a weak chin but holds a decision win over Bonecrusher Smith, the only top 10 opponent win on his resume. KO'd in 1 in both career losses.

Jose Ribalta TKO'd in 10. On his feet, clear-eyed and complaining when the referee stops it. Retires with a winning record but still suffers 9 KO's in 17 losses and like most Tyson KO victims never beats a top 10 heavyweight.

Alfonso Ratliff KO'd in 2. A cruiserweight. KO'd by every world class heavyweight he ever fought. Retires with a winning record but is KO'd 6 times in 9 career losses.

That's 25 of Tyson's 44 Career KO's right there.

STOPPING THIS GROUP OF STIFFS HELPS QUALIFY TYSON AS THE 2ND HARDEST HEAVYWEIGHT IN HISTORY?

[SuzieQ49]

smasher, im wondering...........


do you think a 1990s version of foreman beats a 1980s version of mike tyson head to head?


because if so, then ur implying a 1990s foreman beats a top 15 heavyweight of all time.


i am also interested..........

do u think a 1990s foreman beats a peak version of dempsey,marciano,frasier

[Verstyle]

This is ****ing more hilarious by the minute. Look who Tyson was padding his record against on his way to a title fight.

In 1985 Tyson went 15-0 with 15 KO's. Only one novice opponent would retire with a winning record (6-1). Not one of these 15 opponents ever beat a world class opponent and they accounted for 154 KO losses. ****ing incredible! The glass jaw brigade!

1986 isn't much better and this is the year Tyson fans will tell you his prime started.

David Jaco KO'd in 1 retires with a losing record and is KO'd 18 times.

Mike Jameson KO'd in 5 retires with a losing record and is KO'd 4 times.

Jesse Ferguson was probably one of Tyson's best opponents although his only notable wins were against Ray Mercer and Buster Douglas while he retired having been KO'd 6 times. Even still he finished the fight with Tyson on his feet and was only floored once in 6 rounds before the referee disqualified him for holding.

Steve Zouski retires with a losing record and is KO'd 9 times. In his 2nd fight after getting KO'd by Tyson in 3, 267 lb George Foreman who hasn't fought in 10 years takes only one round more than Tyson scoring a KO in 4.

James Tillis past his prime and now a decent journeyman loses a close decision to Tyson. Tillis never beat a top 10 heavyweight in his career and was KO'd 11 times.

Mitch Green. Here's a switch. A Tyson opponent who doesn't have multiple KO losses on his record. Green who never defeated a ranked fighter and retired 19-6 goes the distance with Tyson and is never floored.

Reggie Gross KO'd in 1. A confidence booster for Tyson who has failed to stop his last 2 opponents. Fought the first half of his career as a light-heavyweight and was KO'd 5 times in compiling an 18-8 career record.

William Hosea KO'd in 1. Another winning record! Retires 11-7 and is KO'd twice.

Lorenzo Boyd. KO'd in 2. Retires with a losing record. Incredibly Boyd suffers 41 KO's in 54 career losses!

Marvis Frazier KO'd in 1. Soft puncher with a weak chin but holds a decision win over Bonecrusher Smith, the only top 10 opponent win on his resume. KO'd in 1 in both career losses.

Jose Ribalta TKO'd in 10. On his feet, clear-eyed and complaining when the referee stops it. Retires with a winning record but still suffers 9 KO's in 17 losses and like most Tyson KO victims never beats a top 10 heavyweight.

Alfonso Ratliff KO'd in 2. A cruiserweight. KO'd by every world class heavyweight he ever fought. Retires with a winning record but is KO'd 6 times in 9 career losses.

That's 25 of Tyson's 44 Career KO's right there.

STOPPING THIS GROUP OF STIFFS HELPS QUALIFY TYSON AS THE 2ND HARDEST HEAVYWEIGHT IN HISTORY?

who doesnt face lower opposition on there way up. he fought like twice a month thats very unheard of even today. ad he set his next opponent even before he had beat his current opponent. show me 1 fighter that fought world class fighters when he first came up.first 10 fights

[SuzieQ49]

tyson demolished 1980s heavyweight who had had never even been down before, let alone been stopped. the 1980s heavyweight divisison was filled with good solid heavyweights who kept winning and losing the title back and forth to eachother. even holmes struggled with some of them like spoon, weaver, bonecrusher. but no one dominated these guys, no one until a guy named mike tyson came along.

- NO ONE STOPPED LARRY HOLMES, I MEAN NO ONE. NOT EVEN WHEN HOLMES FOUGHT IN HIS 50S. however, one man did and he knocked him out cold in the process, mike tyson.


- watch the film of 85-88 tyson, then go watch film of tyson post rooney, he looked different. post rooney..... he loops his punches causing a loss of snap in his punches, became a headhunter, he no longer had his once unpreditable great defense, didnt have his once stellar body and head movement, didnt mix up his combiantions, etc notice how much tyson struggles with bruno and how much easier he is to hit and how vunerable he looks, and this was the FIRST FIGHT WHERE HE WAS WITHOUT ROONEY.

[Yogi]

show me 1 fighter that fought world class fighters when he first came up.first 10 fights

Pete Rademacher, Jack Skelly, Davey Moore, Leon Spinks, Saensak Muangsurin, Rafael Lovera, etc...

There's been a few.

[SuzieQ49]

name you "1 other fighter past there prime at 22"


ok terry mcgovern who was past it at age 21

[Yogi]

- watch the film of 85-88 tyson, then go watch film of tyson post rooney, he looked different. post rooney..... he loops his punches causing a loss of snap in his punches, became a headhunter, he no longer had his once unpreditable great defense, didnt have his once stellar body and head movement, didnt mix up his combiantions, etc notice how much tyson struggles with bruno and how much easier he is to hit and how vunerable he looks, and this was the FIRST FIGHT WHERE HE WAS WITHOUT ROONEY.

And while somebody is checking out the post-Rooney version of Tyson, be sure to throw in the Nino Ribalta fight too (with Rooney), and notice the lack of head movement, the headhunting, the lack of combination punching, the looping of his punches, etc., from Tyson in that fight.

[BKM-]

This is ****ing more hilarious by the minute. Look who Tyson was padding his record against on his way to a title fight.

In 1985 Tyson went 15-0 with 15 KO's. Only one novice opponent would retire with a winning record (6-1). Not one of these 15 opponents ever beat a world class opponent and they accounted for 154 KO losses. ****ing incredible! The glass jaw brigade!

1986 isn't much better and this is the year Tyson fans will tell you his prime started.

David Jaco KO'd in 1 retires with a losing record and is KO'd 18 times.

Mike Jameson KO'd in 5 retires with a losing record and is KO'd 4 times.

Jesse Ferguson was probably one of Tyson's best opponents although his only notable wins were against Ray Mercer and Buster Douglas while he retired having been KO'd 6 times. Even still he finished the fight with Tyson on his feet and was only floored once in 6 rounds before the referee disqualified him for holding.

Steve Zouski retires with a losing record and is KO'd 9 times. In his 2nd fight after getting KO'd by Tyson in 3, 267 lb George Foreman who hasn't fought in 10 years takes only one round more than Tyson scoring a KO in 4.

James Tillis past his prime and now a decent journeyman loses a close decision to Tyson. Tillis never beat a top 10 heavyweight in his career and was KO'd 11 times.

Mitch Green. Here's a switch. A Tyson opponent who doesn't have multiple KO losses on his record. Green who never defeated a ranked fighter and retired 19-6 goes the distance with Tyson and is never floored.

Reggie Gross KO'd in 1. A confidence booster for Tyson who has failed to stop his last 2 opponents. Fought the first half of his career as a light-heavyweight and was KO'd 5 times in compiling an 18-8 career record.

William Hosea KO'd in 1. Another winning record! Retires 11-7 and is KO'd twice.

Lorenzo Boyd. KO'd in 2. Retires with a losing record. Incredibly Boyd suffers 41 KO's in 54 career losses!

Marvis Frazier KO'd in 1. Soft puncher with a weak chin but holds a decision win over Bonecrusher Smith, the only top 10 opponent win on his resume. KO'd in 1 in both career losses.

Jose Ribalta TKO'd in 10. On his feet, clear-eyed and complaining when the referee stops it. Retires with a winning record but still suffers 9 KO's in 17 losses and like most Tyson KO victims never beats a top 10 heavyweight.

Alfonso Ratliff KO'd in 2. A cruiserweight. KO'd by every world class heavyweight he ever fought. Retires with a winning record but is KO'd 6 times in 9 career losses.

That's 25 of Tyson's 44 Career KO's right there.

STOPPING THIS GROUP OF STIFFS HELPS QUALIFY TYSON AS THE 2ND HARDEST HEAVYWEIGHT IN HISTORY?

You really don't know **** about Tyson do you. BOXREC BOXREC!!! You ****ing idiot. Its like your fav site.

[SuzieQ49]

tyson certainly did have flaws at his peak, but i think he gets critisized too much for what happened when he was past his prime.

tyson was 8 years past his prime in the holyfield fight

in comparsion

holyfield was only 2-3 years past his prime