Tyson vs. THE GREATS Pt. I

[Skydog]

Actually, a 42 year-old Foreman went a full match with a young, Evander Holyfield in his prime. And this was Foreman when he was nearly 20 years older than when he was in his prime. Foreman did NOT burn out after 6 rounds. Tyson couldn't hardley go past 6 rounds. Douglas started whipping his tail and then Mike got a lucky uppercut in.

[Verstyle]

u obviously havnt seen all his fights cause i have all of them on dvd.in his prime he went 12 rounds with no problem. why dont u check out the tony tucker fight before talkin **** and thats jus an example

[number6]

Foremans power gives him a good chance but a prime Tyson
would destroy Johnson and Frazier.

[Skydog]

Sure, Mike could go a full match, but he burned out and got slower and more tired after the first 5 or 6 rounds. I don't think Tyson could knock out Frazier in the first 6 rounds.

Number 6, why would Tyson destroy Frazier? Too much power? Frazier had just about equal power as Tyson. Good chin? Joe's was better. More agressive? Joe was just as agressive. Frazier was driven by a red-eyed hatred, just as Foreman was. You just couldn't tell that because Joe wasn't a lunatic who couldn't hold his temper like Mike.

[number6]

Number 6, why would Tyson destroy Frazier? Too much power? Frazier had just about equal power as Tyson. Good chin? Joe's was better. More agressive? Joe was just as agressive. Frazier was driven by a red-eyed hatred, just as Foreman was. You just couldn't tell that because Joe wasn't a lunatic who couldn't hold his temper like Mike.[/QUOTE]

Tyson had much faster hand speed,his punch timing/techniqie
was much more accurate and Joe was a lot easier to hit with a
clean shot than Tyson.

[Warhawk46]

In a sense, Tyson was like a super Frazier...he could do everything better.

And Frazier, although having a great chin, was dropped a few too many times during his career. He got up, which equates to having a great heart more often than not, but he's been dropped, and early in fights.

Tyson only ever got dropped after taking punishment for a prolonged period of time.

Tyson was just twice the athlete as Joe. I would also say Frazier's power was not on par. The left hook sure, but everything else is not the same.

[Warhawk46]

Skydog...

Foreman did burn out after the first 5 or 6 rounds during his prime. Every punch he threw seemed to be a looping (energy-stripping) haymaker. He did not pace himself because he really didnt need to. He was knocking everyone senseless.

When he returned in the late 80s he fought much more intelligently. In fact, he was a much different fighter. He was very relaxed in the ring, much like James Toney is. Neither man wasted energy. Foreman could spend large portions of the fight taking a breather. He was very relaxed (partly because he didnt fight anyone for the first few years) and this enabled him to make it through the fight without exhausting himself.

The younger Foreman couldnt fight this way...he didnt really need to.

[chopper77]

Hey Skydog, I beg to differ. George Foreman NEVER threw a straight punch in his big fat life!!!!

[Skydog]

Dude, if you just have any doubts about Forman's power, just ****ing watch the last knockdown against Norton. Left hook, right uppercut, right hook, left hook. Holy ****, It hurts to watch.

EVery jab Norton gets hit with, his head gets jerked back. And those are jabs. Seeing that Tyson was much shorter than Norton, Foreman's jab would take him apart much more effective than it did to Norton. Tyson would just come straight at Foreman like Joe did, and get shot back out.

[Verstyle]

if u look at formans fights in the early days he stopped using his jab cause he got cocky with his power.