Lennox Lewis ''Mike Tyson Was A One Dimensional Boxer''

[Sparked_1985]

I think a prime Lewis would still break a prime Tyson's heart if he avoided getting KTFO in the first few rounds. After that, Lewis might be able to find a home for that jab and Tyson is getting dispirited and probably stopped late.

I find it hard to pick Tyson against all the other great heavyweights. I reckon the ancient Foreman may well have beaten Tyson.

[Steven Adams]

didnt they train together when they were younger?

[sonnyboyx2]

I think a prime Lewis would still break a prime Tyson's heart if he avoided getting KTFO in the first few rounds. After that, Lewis might be able to find a home for that jab and Tyson is getting dispirited and probably stopped late.

I find it hard to pick Tyson against all the other great heavyweights. I reckon the ancient Foreman may well have beaten Tyson.

you say "Lewis might be able to find a home for that jab" What Jab.... maybe you could point me to which fights of Lewis i should watch which i could see a jab which Lewis used to keep an opponent like a peak Tyson off?

was it the Frank Bruno fight?
Oliver McCall or Hasim Rahman fights?
Ray Mercer or Evander Holyfield fights?

The truth is that Lennox Lewis had a poor jab, it was nothing more than a paw a distraction, it was not a lethal weapon like you are trying to imply.

[sonnyboyx2]

didnt they train together when they were younger?

Yes they sparred and there is varying stories about it, the Lewis fans claim Lewis handled Tyson and the Tyson fans claim Tyson destroyed him in the opening round.

[Sugarj]

Assumption is the mother of all **** ups and you seem to assume a lot my friend
Unfortunately for me i am probably a little older than you ...i grew up watching tyson,i dont need to be told to watch his fights as unlike some i watched them at the time they were aired as well as since
at the time tyson was un beaten the world was in awe of him ...but now looking back we get the chance to look at his career and the fighters he fought !
What better fighter than Holyfield or Lewis did Tyson eva beat ?
I always thought for a fighter to be considered great you had to have a great resume ?? is Tysons resume great ?
Do we consider him great because of him being good to watch or because of the opposition he faced !?
Calzaghe always gets it over this lol
I think Tyson gets more props for how he fought rather than who he fought !
I prefer to watch tyson over lewis...but in my humble opinion I don't think Tyson had the minerals even in his prime to beat Lewis or Holyfield on their day !
Just an opinion..dont kill me

Your earlier post hardly inspired me! It was worded like an 18 year old fed information by an uninformed uncle.

'Tyson was beat by bums'

'as soon as he stepped in a ring with anybody not even half scared to fight back he lost'


Come on!!!! Who were these bums? Williams and McBride?? When Tyson was pushing 40! Relevance to this thread? ZERO!

As for your second comment did you ever watch the Mitch Green, Quick Tillis, Ribalta, Tucker, Holmes, Bruno 1 or Ruddock fights? Guys who were clearly not scared and genuinely fought back.....not even all in world class. There of course were others, but your comment was a bit weak!

Then you went on to rabbit about the Holyfield and Lewis fights, like they had some relevance to prime Tyson or the point of this thread.

I lived through Tyson's prime, no fan who lived throughout this time would make these mistakes. Were you much of a fan in the 80s?

Did Tyson ever beat anyone better than Holyfield or Lewis? No, but they are two legitimate arguably top 10 ATG heavyweights whose prime never coincided. He did the best he could against what was there in the late 80s and thats all a champion can do.

Tyson certainly knocked out plenty of guys with better punch resistance than Lennox Lewis. Lennox was not the most elusive guy, would prime Tyson find that chin? Almost certainly.

[Kid McCoy]

McCall poleaxed Lewis yet you make up excuses of "Don Kings referee" which is simply not true, when has referee Jose Guadalupe Garcia ever refereed a Don King fight?.. show me your evidence instead of making things up to suit your agenda... was you at the fight?

When did that guy ever referee any fight? Don King's personally chosen referee who no one has heard from before or since who just happened to stop the opponent of King's fighter controversially. Hmmm....

Lennox Lewis was 8/11 favorite to beat Ruddock who was "Damaged-Goods" after 2 brutal hammerings by Mike Tyson getting his jaw, cheekbone & eye-socket smashed.. Canadians both Lewis & Ruddock with Lewis knowing Ruddock was a one-handed fighter who was finished which is why he chose to fight him.

Ruddock didn't look "damaged goods" in previous two fights. No one wanted to fight him after Tyson. It's just another after the fact excuse to discredit Lewis. If Ruddock beat Lewis you'd say it proved Lewis could never handle a top prime heavyweight.

You keep claiming Tyson & Bowe refused to fight Lewis yet never ever have you supplied any proof of this other than twisting Lewis acceptance of step-a-side-money as proof Tyson was ducking him yet common sense say's a fighter who fancied his chances of beating Tyson would have turned down the offer and went ahead and forced him to fight and got a payday of 4 times as much as the step-a-side-money as well as a World Title... The same goes for Rid**** Bowe who told the WBC where to stuff their belt after Lewis "priced himself out"... here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0eins2DhSo

Yet you trash what Rid**** Bowe is claiming.. why?..
yet you never put up any evidence to prove Bowe wrong, the Bowe camp offered Lewis career highest paydays on several occasions from 93-95 yet you dismiss that fact and still claim Bowe ducked Lewis?

Funny how what Bowe says is cast iron but you earlier trashed Lewis for expressing his opinion of Tyson.

Bowe and Tyson both ditched their belt when Lewis was the mandatory challenger. Agreed or not? Tyson and King didn't want Lewis, they wanted Holyfield and that's who they were going to get come what may. Bowe/Newman only made face-saving offers they knew Lewis would never accept, like a 90-10 split of the $32million offer you always mention.

http://news.google.co.uk/newspapers?...we+lewis&hl=en

That Bowe ignored most every top contender around, preferring to face ancient guys like Dokes and Ferguson or fringe contenders like Hide and Mathis tells its own story.

You claim Lewis took a tough fight with Mercer in the USA yet Razor Ruddock is Canadian like Lewis and he fought many tough fights in the USA... Larry Holmes at 43yrs old schooled Ray Mercer 3yrs before Lewis struggled with him, Mercer was soundly beaten by Jesse Ferguson and Evander Holyfield in fights before he fought Lewis yet you ridicule Bowe for fighting Ferguson and destroying him in less than 2rds.. The truth is Lewis was terrified of Rid**** Bowe.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/199...ewman-dan-duva

That's the second time you've mentioned Lewis being Canadian. Do you have a particular problem with Lewis' nationality? Presumably you also dislike that Hungarian-Aussie Joe Bugner for the same reasons. Mercer was a tough guy to beat when he was on, he just wasn't "on" that often. He'd just given Holyfield a hard fight and brought his A-game for Lewis too. Taking on a strong tough fighter on his home turf is what I'd call risky and Lewis did it.

You claim Lewis fought David Tua who no one wanted to fight...Tua had been hammered by novice Ike Ibeabuchi and had beaten not a single fighter who was ranked in the worlds Top 10 with his only claim to fame being that he KOd a novice John Ruiz and when Tua did fight Lewis he had to slim down from over 300lbs to 250lb on fight night.

Hammered by novice Ike? A strange interpretation of that fight. Ruiz was 24 and in his 28th pro fight. Some novice. I'm just surprised you didn't say Tua was the fattest challenger in history, even though he wasn't.

You claim Lewis fought Holyfield to unify the titles yet forget to say that Holyfield was years past his best and that both fights was highly controversial with Lewis looking to be the clear winner of their first fight and Holyfield the clear winner of their second fight...

http://www.boxing-monthly.co.uk/content/9912/one.htm

So Holy was years past his best when he faced Lewis but not so many years past his best that he couldn't handle the supposed terror of the division John Ruiz in his next fight? Make up your mind.

Graham Houston, the author of that article you just posted, said Lewis was "a thoroughly deserving victor".

You then finish by claiming at age 37 he took on Klitschko and we should give him a break.... But again it was Lewis himself who boasted "i will have one brother for breakfast the other brother for tea" as well as claiming " i am like Fine Wine"...but the truth is he came unstuck against Vitali and Vitali's resume would not strike fear into Tyson or Bowe.

Strange that so many of Lewis' opponents were old, shot or washed up, yet he gets no slack from you for what he was doing when he was old. Lewis left Vitali's face looking like he'd put it in a food blender. Funny way of "coming unstuck". What were Louis, Ali, Tyson, Marciano, Tunney, Dempsey and Frazier doing at age 37?

i know you believe what you claim to be true but it would help if you could put up links to back up your claims as in the past you have made these exact claims and never had anything to prove them as being correct yet your quick to trash any other links which are provided.

Like you back up your claims that Lewis ducked Bonecrusher, Witherspoon, Hide, Brewster and Jones?

[Toney616]

Watch from 5:14.

He was so 1 dimensional that he dragged him to court forcing him to fight him, then tried to drag him to court to force a rematch?

Lewis is retired now, he should just chill out and me more respectful to his past opponents imo

[The Iron Man]

Yes they sparred and there is varying stories about it, the Lewis fans claim Lewis handled Tyson and the Tyson fans claim Tyson destroyed him in the opening round.

Lewis' first trainer said that Tyson gave him a massive beating the first few times and he asked lewis is he wanted to quit. Lewis was then said to have got better and was able to handle Tyson.

Who knows what happened.

[The Iron Man]

He was so 1 dimensional that he dragged him to court forcing him to fight him, then tried to drag him to court to force a rematch?

Lewis is retired now, he should just chill out and me more respectful to his past opponents imo

Exactly!! I was saying this earlier, its a shame he isn't.

[Toney616]

Exactly!! I was saying this earlier, its a shame he isn't.

Good point
If he looks at the big picture, he is just putting down his own resume, seeing as how him and Tyson fought and beat a lot of the same guys