H2H who was the greatest Super-Middleweight ever

[Wild Blue Yonda]

This is false. The age gap between Marciano and Louis was the size of the grand canyon. Joe Louis was north of 35 and Marciano was 28, which is absolute peak human performance for athletes.

Zags and Roy were both north of 35 when they fought. Fair game.

***** & Poet have already raised the objections to this post I would have. The situation between Calzaghe & Jones is comparable to Marciano & Louis, in the context of the discussion. In this instance, age is of secondary concern.

Marciano was in his prime when he battled Louis, & Calzaghe, close (not absolute peak, but not far from it) to his when he challenged Jones. Louis & Jones were each shot-to-bits (probably fair to call Jones in a worse state, since Louis had at least beaten one excellent fighter in recent times when Marciano retired him).

[SCtrojansbaby]

Roy Jones is H2H the best at any weight from 160-175. Roy Jones would be a 5/1 favorite or worse against any other fighter.

[Wild Blue Yonda]

Roy Jones is H2H the best at any weight from 160-175. Roy Jones would be a 5/1 favorite or worse against any other fighter.

That is a very brave opinion, you have there.

[StarshipTrooper]

Roy Jones would be a 5/1 favorite or worse against any other fighter.

Bull**** and you're on ignore as a nuthugging troll. Back to NSB with you if you can't have an intelligent discussion about boxing. We don't need fan-bois who think with their d1cks polluting this section.

Poet

[Roy Keane]

jones was clearly faster then calzaghe when they fought, so prime roy whos at the peak of his powers and isnt fighting just to survive beats calzaghe 7/10

[Kid McCoy]

Roy Jones is H2H the best at any weight from 160-175. Roy Jones would be a 5/1 favorite or worse against any other fighter.

Roy Jones would get KO'd within 3 rounds by any great fighter from 160-175.

It's the easiest thing in the world to make a bold statement knowing it's completely unprovable.

[Holtol]

Roy Jones is H2H the best at any weight from 160-175. Roy Jones would be a 5/1 favorite or worse against any other fighter.

Do you realize that the Marqess of Queensberry rules have been in effect since 1860? If a boxers prime is about 10 years then there has been 15 boxers who could have had more talent then Jones at his weight. If you were to role a 15 sided dice would you assume that it would land on your favorite number more often?

[Joeyzagz]

You don't seem to understand that age and prime are not the same. People have been washed up by their mid 20s.

Other's don't even enter their prime until their 30s.

My criteria for Prime is simply different than yours, I choose to go by the laws of nature that apply to every human being, not just boxers. Males begin to rapidly lose testosterone once they near 30. This is unescapable.

If you were to plot the performance of athletes from different sports like boxing, baseball, basketball, hockey and football, theyd probably all produce similar curves, and itd be hard to distinguish between the sports.

I understand there are other things at work in boxing, but age/physical prime is still the over-riding factor. To compare Roy/Zagz to a 37 year old fighting a 28 year old is absurd.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Holtol, I dont really understand your post but 5/1 is a betting term

[SCtrojansbaby]

Fernando Vargus and Meldrick Taylor were washed up well before there 30s