Larry Holmes and Wladimir Klitschko. Titlereign comparison.

[Dr. Z]

Again, why would a legend, with legends on his resume have to make an offer to an up and Comer who to this day lost to the only legend he fought and to the two best fighters he fought.?

Why did both fighters ( Lewis and Byrd ) not seek a re-match? Lewis as we know quit before the WBC would strip him. And Don King made sure Byrd would not share the ring with Vitali while he was signed. Calling Byrd one of the two best fighters he fought is debatable and you know he got lucky that Vitali hurt his shoulder during the fight.

Besides I guess you the hold PED Holyfield draw against him. He did not deserve one of them and the other one happened with Ruiz. And his numerous other looses. And before you bring up the Byrd fight for the 100th time , Holyfield quit as in a pro fight vs. a no name.

[JAB5239]

Why did both fighters ( Lewis and Byrd ) not seek a re-match? Lewis as we know quit before the WBC would strip him. And Don King made sure Byrd would not share the ring with Vitali while he was signed. Calling Byrd one of the two best fighters he fought is debatable and you know he got lucky that Vitali hurt his shoulder during the fight.

Besides I guess you the hold PED Holyfield draw against him. He did not deserve one of them and the other one happened with Ruiz. And his numerous other looses. And before you bring up the Byrd fight for the 100th time , Holyfield quit as in a pro fight vs. a no name.

Lewis retired after WINNING. Why did Byrd need to seek a rematch, he won. And how did Vits hurt his shoulder before quitting? By Byrd making him consistently miss.

You can say Holy MAY be a PED cheater. But he never failed a test. All there is, is circumstantial evidence. VK on the other hand, he actually was proven to have cheated before. And spare the whole it was in the amateurs. If he was willing to cheat as an unpaid fighter what would stop him from cheating as a pro.

Holyfield never quit while in his prime. FACT.

[Dr. Z]

Lewis retired after WINNING. Why did Byrd need to seek a rematch, he won. And how did Vits hurt his shoulder before quitting? By Byrd making him consistently miss.

You can say Holy MAY be a PED cheater. But he never failed a test. All there is, is circumstantial evidence. VK on the other hand, he actually was proven to have cheated before. And spare the whole it was in the amateurs. If he was willing to cheat as an unpaid fighter what would stop him from cheating as a pro.

Holyfield never quit while in his prime. FACT.

Flase! Holyfield can be seen quitting in the Sherman fight. He was saved by a head butt, ironic. Byrd was clearly losing and was lucky Vitali was injured. You know this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXQYP4sLIyE



Keep believing Evader didn't cheat as a professional.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/bo...d-allegations/

[JAB5239]

Flase! Holyfield can be seen quitting in the Sherman fight. He was saved by a head butt, ironic. Byrd was clearly losing and was lucky Vitali was injured. You know this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXQYP4sLIyE



Keep believing Evader didn't cheat as a professional.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/bo...d-allegations/

So 2011 was Holyfields prime? And he didn't quit, did he?

Flase!!!!

Ps-if Vits was beating Byrd so decisively why was he being backed up by the much smaller and light hitting Byrd? Why did Vits only land 8 more punches in 9 rounds with all his advantages? Yes, TOTAL DOMINATION!!

[Ivich]

Flase! Holyfield can be seen quitting in the Sherman fight. He was saved by a head butt, ironic. Byrd was clearly losing and was lucky Vitali was injured. You know this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXQYP4sLIyE



Keep believing Evader didn't cheat as a professional.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/bo...d-allegations/

Holyfield was 48 years old!

How old was Vitali when he quit against late substitute , 34lbs lighter,
5 inches shorter Byrd?
A.28 ie 20 years younger than Evander.or Evader as you prefer! lol

FLASE ? EVADER? Translation required!
Vitali was thrown off the Ukrainian Olympic Squad for steroid abuse!

Klitschko tested positive for a banned substance in 1996, received a two-year suspension and was thrown off the Ukrainian boxing team for the Atlanta Olympics. He had planned to box at super heavyweight while his younger brother, Wladimir Klitschko, planned to compete as a heavyweight. Wladimir, who was struggling to make weight, took over the super heavyweight slot and went on to win the gold medal.Source Box Rec.

[Dr. Z]

So 2011 was Holyfields prime? And he didn't quit, did he?

Flase!!!!

Ps-if Vits was beating Byrd so decisively why was he being backed up by the much smaller and light hitting Byrd? Why did Vits only land 8 more punches in 9 rounds with all his advantages? Yes, TOTAL DOMINATION!!

Watch the video. He quit, but was saved by a technicality ( due a clash of heads ) which if you watched Holyfield many times he initated it and was accused as such by his opponents. These are facts.

So what. Vitali quit the same as many hall of fame opponents. He had a bad injury and was well ahead and Byrd . Byrd never sought a re-match with an offer. No one say who wins Ali with a torn shoulder or Jerry Quarry.

Now are you going to list you top 30? I'd like to see where you place VK and you standards for ranking 20+ men ahead of him. I am telling you it is not well thought out and will easily be exposed like a cheap suit. TOTAL DOMINATION

[JAB5239]

Watch the video. He quit, but was saved by a technicality ( due a clash of heads ) which if you watched Holyfield many times he initated it and was accused as such by his opponents. These are facts.

So what. Vitali quit the same as many hall of fame opponents. He had a bad injury and was well ahead and Byrd . Byrd never sought a re-match with an offer. No one say who wins Ali with a torn shoulder or Jerry Quarry.

Now are you going to list you top 30? I'd like to see where you place VK and you standards for ranking 20+ men ahead of him. I am telling you it is not well thought out and will easily be exposed like a cheap suit. TOTAL DOMINATION

But he didn't quit, it was stopped due to a headbutt, correct?

Byrd didn't need to seek a rematch, he won. It was on Vits to redeem himself. When Byrd lost to Wlad, he fought him again when he got his chance, right?

I've already listed 20 fighters, go find it. Right now you're a laughingstock on here. You say the same things over and over hoping it will change the facts. Here's a little secret......it wont.

[BattlingNelson]

The K's were banned from HBO because they were boring and brought no rating. Vits was labeled a quitter after the Byrd fight and they wanted nothing to do with him. Why was Golovkin, Lomachenko, Beterniev never banned? Just curious. Or maybe you're just doing your usual troll act. Talk about a lowbrow look....

Banned? What do you mean?

Oh and Golovkin wasn't on US tv back when he no doubt was the best MW in the world and was ducked by Sturm. It didn't matter that he was super-entertaining, a KO-artist and arguably already a top p4p fighter. It's just not easy for a good/great euro fighter to break through to the US television market. Golovkin even had a fight shown and sponsored by tabloid Bild zeitung.

[BattlingNelson]

Sure...Bure going g after some title carries more weight than no title.

Are you saying that Holyfield would have taken a Vitali fight instead of one of the Ruiz fights?

[QueensburyRules]

But he didn't quit, it was stopped due to a headbutt, correct?

Byrd didn't need to seek a rematch, he won. It was on Vits to redeem himself. When Byrd lost to Wlad, he fought him again when he got his chance, right?

I've already listed 20 fighters, go find it. Right now you're a laughingstock on here. You say the same things over and over hoping it will change the facts. Here's a little secret......it wont.

- - You seem to know a lot about being in the Laughing Stock whilst being pelted by rotten eggs, baby diapers, and the like.

Comes with being Timeline Illiterate.

Wlad beat Byrd whilst Vit recovering from shoulder surgery. DKing brought Byrd back with an IBF title fight with Field, making Byrd off limits for the Ks. Wlad gave Byrd an immediate rematch and pay above his DKing station as soon as he was able to ditch King.

It's like what grade was you in then?