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  • #21
    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

    Of course he has many visible flaws and would lose a lot more than three times if he fought today. Posters who think otherwise are not being honest with them themselves and continue to BS themselves the he was superman. Three men who weighed under 200 pounds and severals other gave him trouble. Cruiser weights to super middles! He was great in his own era but outside of it, well not so great.
    As I said according to crazy idiots on all sites ever he never struggled the videos we so called seen was of a different person

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    • #22
      Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

      As I said according to crazy idiots on all sites ever he never struggled the videos we so called seen was of a different person

      I've been around a few forums for a few years and I've never seen "crazy idiots" claiming "he never struggled". Where can we find all these outrageous claims?

      I think you might be off with the pixies on this one buster.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by JT1 View Post


        I've been around a few forums for a few years and I've never seen "crazy idiots" claiming "he never struggled". Where can we find all these outrageous claims?

        I think you might be off with the pixies on this one buster.
        Yup keep repeating that lie you crazy robot as if we dont have video of mutiple no names on top of mid/high from 70s-now who were and are way more advanced and he went undefeated cause he fought novices like this is easy to see this you crazy bad vision person
        like why brag on that anybody with logic knows if a person went undefeated that long means they fought trash you slow idiot

        most technical ever fighting like a novice in 30-40s only a nut would say that who never seen matches outside that era you nut your just lke the rest of the crazy idiots

        I dont need to explain any thing cause anybody with good vision should be able to see he looks trash compared the poster post was right

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        • #24
          Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

          Yup keep repeating that lie you crazy robot as if we dont have video of mutiple no names on top of mid/high from 70s-now who were and are way more advanced and he went undefeated cause he fought novices like this is easy to see this you crazy bad vision person
          like why brag on that anybody with logic knows if a person went undefeated that long means they fought trash you slow idiot

          most technical ever fighting like a novice in 30-40s only a nut would say that who never seen matches outside that era you nut your just lke the rest of the crazy idiots

          I dont need to explain any thing cause anybody with good vision should be able to see he looks trash compared the poster post was right
          - - U need toilet tissue after every post.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

            Louis on the scorecards is well behind these men on points. In a modern sense he looses to Conn in 12 rounds. He was robbed vs Walcott too as it was 15 rounds. He was in his prime or very close to it for these matches. Forget the fact that he was stunned by Farr and dropped by Galeno. I have been saying this for years. And watch Godoy 1 and tell me what your think of the surviving footage. Double dare you.

            I'll say this, Louis is lucky to fight in a down era of heavyweight boxing and fought just two African Americans in his title shots. One was a vision impaired light heavyweight in his last fight, the other ( Walcott ) was robbed blind in this first fight and way ahead in their second match until he got cute and caught

            If he gave title shots to Elmer Ray, Turkey Thompson, Lem Franklin, and Lee Q Murray he probably loses once more. Maybe twice. He pretty much avoided Rosenbloom. No title shots to Obie Walker or Tiger Fox either.

            Louis is one of the greats but its clear is is not as great as the media tells you if watch the films and scorecards .
            Nope! the scorecards up until Louis ko'd Conn were as follows 5-7, 6-7.4-7

            6-7.8-6 9-6 Against Walcott.
            Still awarding decisions to Louis' opponents on the basis of some edited highlights.have you any idea how absurd you are?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Ivich View Post

              Nope! the scorecards up until Louis ko'd Conn were as follows 5-7, 6-7.4-7

              6-7.8-6 9-6 Against Walcott.
              Still awarding decisions to Louis' opponents on the basis of some edited highlights.have you any idea how absurd you are?
              Score was 6-6 not 6-7 (It couldn't be 6-7 the 13th round was not scored.)

              P.S. Conn had to win at least one round on two judges score cards or two rounds on one judges score card (each round) to win. (Dependent on which judges.)

              If Louis takes all three final rounds on all three judges score cards he wins a MD.

              It is a common mistake to believe that Conn could have just stalled for three rounds. He needed to score just a couple more points to win the title.
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              • #27
                Originally posted by Ivich View Post

                Nope! the scorecards up until Louis ko'd Conn were as follows 5-7, 6-7.4-7

                6-7.8-6 9-6 Against Walcott.
                Still awarding decisions to Louis' opponents on the basis of some edited highlights.have you any idea how absurd you are?
                Your slow the point is louis was struggling he didn't hit those guys often until they stopped moving often he looked very sluggish they made him look that way why did you leave that out like all others looney like you leave out how snail like his movement was and how he looked lost

                He especially looked very bad agiasnt jers the most advanced and most fluid of the whole black and white era before ali came
                jers easily won he only technically lost cause he stopped moving
                Last edited by Ascended; 01-23-2023, 02:40 PM.
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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Ivich View Post

                  Nope! the scorecards up until Louis ko'd Conn were as follows 5-7, 6-7.4-7

                  6-7.8-6 9-6 Against Walcott.
                  Still awarding decisions to Louis' opponents on the basis of some edited highlights.have you any idea how absurd you are?
                  You posting of bogus score cards men nothing. You say Louis was ahead?


                  No, he was behind the super middle weight. He lucky this fight wasn't 12 rounds and Conn fought ******ly in the 13th

                  " After twelve rounds, Conn was ahead on two of the three scorecards and even on the third. He needed to win just one of the three remaining rounds to get the decision. However, after staggering Louis in the twelfth, Conn believed he could stop him and went for a knockout in the thirteenth. Louis, who was told by his trainer, Jack Blackburn, that he had to stop Conn to win, also went for a knockout. Louis hurt Conn with a right about a minute into the round. Louis, one of the greatest finishers of all-time, didn't let Conn off the hook. A volley of lefts and rights put Conn down for the count at 2:58 of the thirteenth round​ "
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                    You posting of bogus score cards men nothing. You say Louis was ahead?


                    No, he was behind the super middle weight. He lucky this fight wasn't 12 rounds and Conn fought ******ly in the 13th

                    " After twelve rounds, Conn was ahead on two of the three scorecards and even on the third. He needed to win just one of the three remaining rounds to get the decision. However, after staggering Louis in the twelfth, Conn believed he could stop him and went for a knockout in the thirteenth. Louis, who was told by his trainer, Jack Blackburn, that he had to stop Conn to win, also went for a knockout. Louis hurt Conn with a right about a minute into the round. Louis, one of the greatest finishers of all-time, didn't let Conn off the hook. A volley of lefts and rights put Conn down for the count at 2:58 of the thirteenth round​ "
                    Keep exposing that crazy idiot

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

                      Your slow the point is louis was struggling he didn't hit those guys often until they stopped moving often he looked very sluggish they made him look that way why did you leave that out like all others looney like you leave out how snail like his movement was and how he looked lost

                      He especially looked very bad agiasnt jers the most advanced and most fluid of the whole black and white era before ali came
                      jers easily won he only technically lost cause he stopped moving
                      - - JJ stopped moving because ol' slo Joe stopped him moving...what grade they kick you outta school? Before or after ADD programs and medication?
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