Is Joe Louis Overrated?

[Ivich]

I told you, your entire strategy is based on making me search where this happened in the press. I could play that game too, making you produce numerous thing to back up you lies and agenda. Wh

Here you go. Walcott camp protested against Donovan for the re-match! I hope you can read it.


https://www.nytimes.com/1947/12/04/a...f-walcott.html


PROTEST IS ISSUED ON FIGHT REFEREE; Webster, Manager of Walcott, Advises Against Donovan for Louis Title Bout


You can search for yourself you know.

You complete donut, that was the FIRST FIGHT!
It's official !

YOU ARE A MORON!


Allegations Of Crooked Judges A Corrupt Referee And A Worlds Heavyweight Champion Lying in Print And On National TV. - Boxing Forum (boxingscene.com)
This is another smear you posted.

"One of Louis manger was a numbers runner and mob connected, He went to prison. Take a good guess as to why. Might he have " fixed some " fights?"



You do know that Walcott's manager ,[not MANGER lol] Felix Bocchicchio was a mob figure ,a murder suspect, , a close friend of
Public Enemy Owney Madden don't you? When Madden was released from Sing Sing Bocchicchio was outside waiting to pick him up.

Yo do know that the first Walcott v Marciano fight was scheduled for New York ,but moved to Philadelphia because Bocchicchio had a criminal record in NY ? John Roxborough ,Louis' manager was a numbers runner,he was never arrested for murder.nor was he a member of any mob ,as Bocchicchio was.
You do know you are a cretin don't you?

www.nytimes.com › 1975/06/19 › archives

1. • • Felix Bocchicchio (1906-1975) was a soldier in the Philadelphia crime family/. He was known for being a gambler and masterminded many burglaries and robberies in and around the Philadelphia area. He was known for fixing high profile boxing matches and once being a boxing manager to "Jersey Joe Walcott" from 1940's-1950's.
     
     By the summer of 1936 Felix Bocchicchio had moved to Mount Ephraim NJ. He was known locally as "Man 'o War", apparently after the famous race horse. Involved in ********, he was already well known to police when picked up in Camden NJ in August of 1936 by Officer John V. Wilkie for involvement with pinball machines, which were considered illegal gaming devices at the time.
2. In my safely removed view of him, Felix Bocchicchio will always remain a weirdly comedic figure, even though he was a prime suspect and accomplice in the murder of police detective Feitz in 1934 and multiple stickups ranging from Lancaster to South Jersey ranging back to 1925.
3. www.nytimes.com › 1975/06/19 › archivesFelix Bocchicchio, 68, Dies; Managed Walcott to Title
   
   
   Jun 19, 1975 · MOUNT EPHRAIM, N.J., June 18 (AP)—Felix J. Bocchicchio, the manager who guided Jersey Joe Walcott to the world heavyweight boxing title in 1951, died yesterday at his home here. He was 69 years.old.."
4. Might he have fixed some fights for Walcott?LOL

[Rockin']

Who was in the lead for Louis vs Conn a super middle wight after 12 rounds?

It does not matter who was ahead after 12 rounds.

The bout was scheduled for 15.

And Conn got ktfo.

Louis is not overated...................Rockin'

[Ascended]

Overrated bad fought novice compared to 70s-90s

[kara]

Overrated bad fought novice compared to 70s-90s

Money The Man.......... is back?

[Ascended]

Money The Man.......... is back?

He isnt staying its no need people here are crazy idiots, full matches have and always will prove me right comparing era's, people on 24 spread my truth and who are sane here expose my truth against crazy idiots here and on there

[Slugfester]

I never took judges, scorecards or ratings too seriously. My conclusion after sixty+ years of following boxing rather devotedly is: USE YOUR EYES. It is easy for most of us to tell when a scorecard is a joke. If someone agrees with Adalaide Byrd's scorecard in Canelo/Golovkin #?, that person does not follow boxing but they do follow Canelo. Even the Nevada State Athletic Commission could barely defend her at the time, merely acknowledging her scoring was a little wide today--a completely useless institution which now sanctions face-slapping as a sport.

Paid off referees have to sneak in their favoritism in close-call judgements, the more subtle the better. Sometimes a fight is not absolutely fixed but the outcome is shaped by choosing a referee who breaks fighters fast, or a judge who prefers scientific boxing to rough slugging etc, or both. It doesn't guarantee success, but it is less risky and doesn't look illegal on the surface either. I don't think these gangster casino owners and their commission lackeys are drawing the names of top referees and judges from a hat; one gets appointed by their own judgement. You can protest that, but it doesn't mean you can get it changed. I mean they had a hack judge one of the most significant fights of the decade. It smells of skulduggery.

More than anything I trust my own eyes, though they are not infallible either. Of course we have to know those other stats too, as long as we have a true perspective that they are often crooked, financially motivated, political, fixed or shaped in some way.

Bob Bennet, Director NSAC:

“Adalaide is an outstanding judge,” Bennett said. “She has done approximately 115 titles fight or elimination bouts. She has done a great deal of our training, taking a lot of younger judges under her wing. …

"Judging is a very challenging position. Unfortunately, Adalaide was a little wide tonight. … It’s like any business. Sometimes you have an off day.”

He went on: “That’s the life of judge. You take the good with the bad. When a judge is on the money, no one says anything about. And they really shouldn’t. We’re paid to get it right. Unfortunately, she wasn’t in the ballpark tonight.”

It was nice of her taking the younger judges under her wing, Bob, and "nice," of you to let her, but we don't want her or more like her. And a' that and a' that. You see, we have eyes!

[QueensburyRules]

Overrated bad fought novice compared to 70s-90s

- - What part of Transylvania did they ship you from?

[kara]

- - What part of Transylvania did they ship you from?

Hey, hey. Money The Man is back!......... for better or worse!