James Toney:Is he a ATG?

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  • mrboxer
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    #11
    his record is made up of fighting more stiffs than contenders,in all his fights he has fought only a few[over 5 under 10]big names and most of them where nearing the age of 40,and in some cases over 40

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    • r.burgundy
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      #12
      toney is absolutely an atg.that shouldnt even be debateable.he fought almost everybody except hopkins when they were on top of thier games and came away with 3 losses.not to mention he deserves wins over peter,ruiz,and rahman on his resume.he beat up 4 hw champs.his evander win deserves more credit being as how evander arguablly beat valuez.never close to being stopped and not to mention his skill set

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      • mrboxer
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        #13
        Originally posted by r.burgundy
        toney is absolutely an atg.that shouldnt even be debateable.he fought almost everybody except hopkins when they were on top of thier games and came away with 3 losses.not to mention he deserves wins over peter,ruiz,and rahman on his resume.he beat up 4 hw champs.his evander win deserves more credit being as how evander arguablly beat valuez.never close to being stopped and not to mention his skill set
        you make a couple of debatable claims but non of them can sustain a winning argument,james as fought some champs yes but what kind of champs were they,holyfield was the best out of the lot and is an all time great,the others are just flash in the pan champs,

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        • r.burgundy
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          #14
          Originally posted by mrboxer
          his record is made up of fighting more stiffs than contenders,in all his fights he has fought only a few[over 5 under 10]big names and most of them where nearing the age of 40,and in some cases over 40
          montell griffin
          roy jones
          micheal nunn
          reggie johnson
          iran barkley
          merqui sosa
          mike mccallum
          sam peter
          hasim rahman
          vassily jirov
          dominik guinn

          so umm,which 1 of those guys was anywhere near 40 when toney fought them????only big fight he has had with an over 40 guy was evander

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          • sonnyboyx2
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            #15
            Yes James Toney is an ATG and IMO he is one of the greatest fighters of the last 50yrs although i now wish he would hang em up

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            • mrboxer
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              #16
              you must be new around here,a fighter can be 30 but because he is over the hill he will fight like a 40 year old.evander would of won the fight but he had a lot on his mind,if evander and james fought in their primes james gets kayoed first round,this list you proudly display are fighters that have not made any big contributions to the sport,

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              • DR.ORGYY
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                #17
                no doubt.....

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                • mushahadeen
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                  #18
                  ATG 100? For sure.

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                  • r.burgundy
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by mrboxer
                    you must be new around here,a fighter can be 30 but because he is over the hill he will fight like a 40 year old.evander would of won the fight but he had a lot on his mind,if evander and james fought in their primes james gets kayoed first round,this list you proudly display are fighters that have not made any big contributions to the sport,
                    im gonna stop replying now because its obvious you have never seen any toney fights

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                    • D-MiZe
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                      #20
                      Toney is not an ATG.

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