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  • Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
    it also shows your ******ed bias being even trying to justify the fact that frazier didnt fight norton,shavers,young,and lyle.i personally think he beats them all except young but fights arent fought on paper.norton,shavers,and lyle were 3 of the big punchers of that era and joe didnt fight them for whatever reason
    Because Futch trained both him and Norton and they were stable mates, Because the timing wasn't right for a Lyle or Shavers fight and both were destroyed by Quarry who you discredited, and Joe had bigger fish to fry besides an inconsistent Young. Any more questions?

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    • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      Its funny you his power **** when he knocked out better fighters than either Klitschko.

      Liston
      Patterson
      Williams
      Terrell
      Folley
      Quarry
      Bonovena
      Ellis
      Frazier
      Foreman
      Lyle

      Ko'ing no hopers doesn't make one a great puncher.
      dude just quit.its 1 thing not to like the klits but to even act as if ali has comparable power.cmon man
      moneytheman Ascended likes this.

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      • Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
        in this day and age it would be called ducking.cmon man,quarry sucks.lyle an shavers were chin chnned but they had big punches and joes chin was shaky in his 2 fights with a big puncher.

        stop listning to poets crap.you know full well that joe coulda used those fights

        It wasn't called ducking in an era that was multiple times better than today, so why would it be ducking now.

        Quarry ******? I really thought you knew better than that, I was wrong. Obviously you haven't watched Quarry fight to often.

        Name me all the fighters at heavy who have better resumes than Frazier and explain why. Can you do it? It shouldn't be very difficult since you look so far down upon Frazier. I'll wait.

        And by the way, whether you like him or not, Poet has an excellent grasp on boxing history.

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        • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          It wasn't called ducking in an era that was multiple times better than today, so why would it be ducking now.

          Quarry ******? I really thought you knew better than that, I was wrong. Obviously you haven't watched Quarry fight to often.

          Name me all the fighters at heavy who have better resumes than Frazier and explain why. Can you do it? It shouldn't be very difficult since you look so far down upon Frazier. I'll wait.

          And by the way, whether you like him or not, Poet has an excellent grasp on boxing history.
          You have to understand the kind of circular logic that some of these nitwits use: "Quarry lost twice to that no-skill bum Frazier therefore Quarry must REALLY suck balls if he lost twice to that bum"

          Poet

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          • Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
            dude just quit.its 1 thing not to like the klits but to even act as if ali has comparable power.cmon man

            Who has knocked out the better fighters? You said Ali's power was ****. I've made a list of fighters who Ali ko'd. Show me a list of fighters either Klit has ko'd and we can debate from there if you're up to it.

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            • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              Who has knocked out the better fighters? You said Ali's power was ****. I've made a list of fighters who Ali ko'd. Show me a list of fighters either Klit has ko'd and we can debate from there if you're up to it.
              While there is no question who stopped the better fighters, I think Wlad's one shot power is superior to Ali's, who was a decent puncher with speed, but by no means a great puncher.

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              • Originally posted by One more round View Post
                While there is no question who stopped the better fighters, I think Wlad's one shot power is superior to Ali's, who was a decent puncher with speed, but by no means a great puncher.

                I'd agree with this 100%. There is a big difference in what you posted though and saying Ali "didn't punch for ****".

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                • Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
                  i dont think a fighter in history has ever been rewarded more for losing

                  It's quite disgusting that a cherry picker would receive as much credit as frazier does.His legacy is that of a leech who spent his entire career ducking and avoiding punchers.A man who failed to clear his division of all opposition and left that to fighters who actually had a pair.



                  God knows how many times Ali's name has been brought up in this thread.Just go's to show how shallow frazier's legacy really is.

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                  • Originally posted by them_apples View Post
                    Fraziers style would be a nightmare for the K bros. They are very upright and don't tuck their chins, and they don't seem to like fighting inside. Everyone they face fights them at their reach. Frazier would be inside and never take a step back. I'm not so certain they would even have any punching power in close.
                    I agree, Frazier would defintly eat up Wlad, and he would of beaten Vitali also.

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                    • Originally posted by Snopkins View Post
                      My legacy is that of a leech who spent his entire life stealing oxygen from those far more worthy of breathing.
                      Ah! Slimeypoophead finally admits the truth!

                      Poet

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