George Foreman, the Man who made the man that is falsely proclaimed as the man in box

[rocco1252]

brains are better than power and what what ali did to foreman was use his brains, there is no way Foreman is a better heavyweight than Ali and his fight with Frazier is what made him the greatest and known at that point. At no time in Foremans career could he have beaten Ali unfortunately to say considering I like Foreman more than Ali. Foreman is in with the top 10 heavyweights but in no way is he ahead of Ali and in no way was he soley responsible for making Ali who he was today.

[tommyhearns804]

Ali didn't use anything to beat Foreman.It was just one fight.Pure luck.Is Douglas better than Tyson?Did he out think Tyson or did Tyson just have a bad night and Douglas took advantage and won?Evidently Ali thought he couldn't beat Foreman again and that is the main reason Foreman couldn't get re-match.And if you are going to say Foreman beating Frazier made him great then exactly who did Ali beat to make him great?It had to be a combination of him beating Frazier,Norton, and Foreman.If he would of stayed retired and never fought the 3 fighters i just mention nobody in here would be saying he was great.Infact Foreman would of never lost in his prime.If anything we would all be talking about how great Foreman is instead of Ali.

[Easy-E]

wow, absolutly not the truth. Luck??
the reason douglas beat tyson was because tyson was out of shape, without a proper trainer, and because he thought the fight was going to be cake, and was suprised and unprepared.
Foreman got his ass kicked, watch the fight agian, ali was dominating the entire fight, controlling the pace and winning rounds. he made foreman look like the bum he was. i will gurantee you have NO IDEA about the circimstances concerning the rematch, but if there was one, ali would have dominated again. he is simply a better, smarter boxer then foreman, and tyson douglass is a horrible comparison

[tommyhearns804]

Lol first PBF if you want to talk about somebody getting dominated then Ali was crushed by Frazier in their first fight.Norton dominated Ali in all 3 of their fights by got robbed 2 times.If you want to use the only well Tyson only lost to Douglas because he was ****y and he didnt train then that same excuse has to be used for Foreman.But the only difference is Foreman never really trained.Do you know Foreman?Nope but the people around him at that time did and said Foreman rarely trained period and when he did it was usually just a few rounds of sparring.After Foreman beat Frazier his ego grew to such a level he trully believe he couldnt lose.He started cheating on his wife and doing alot of other stuff.
And as for the fight evidently you havent watched it.Ali dominating Foreman?Only if you are mentally ******ed.Foreman was the one in control up until he got tired.Ali stated himself that Foreman had him out on his feet 5 plus times doing the fight.But Foreman never landed a clean blow to Ali's head so i guess glancing blows hurt Ali.Ali said he knew he could never out box Foreman because Foreman was to fast.Ali also said he knew as long as Foreman was fresh he couldn't try to engage him period.And i think Ali would know more about this than some little boy who think he knows boxing.
Ali didn't fight Foreman again because he knew he would lose and he was lucky to get a win the first time.Ali instead fought Norton again Frazier again.He fought some Japenese wrestler guy instead of giving Foreman a re-match.Ali gave everbody else a re-match didn't he.He had no problem fight some fighters 3 time times.But yet Foreman couldn't get one more chance to prove he was better than Ali.You can find excuses about why they didnt fight but i gave you the right reason.Saddler and Moore kept trying to get Ali back in the ring but Ali knew he wouldnt win.So Foreman tried to get Holmes in the ring just in case he did get another shot at Ali but Holmes people wanted no part of Foreman.Foreman began to lose his desire fight fight and the ended up fighting Young and as you know he lost and Retired.
You know why people will say Ali is the greatest?Because they feel sorry for him.They feel sorry for the brain damage he got from people like Frazier and Norton and Shavers.Foreman has had more fights than Ali.30 of those fights after the age of 38.Does Foreman have any evidence of brain damage?Nope and do you know why?Because he is the greatest.He doesnt have to have people like you feel bad for him.He doenst have to run off at the mouth like Ali did and pay for it.He did his job and went home.He crushed legends.Even when he was old he made young good fighters run from him like cowards.Ali was done at 36 years of age.By then he was losing to people like Spinks.Do you believe a 36 year old Foreman would lose to Spinks?Hell no.Do you think a 40 year old Foreman would lose to Berbick?Hell no.Do you know why again?Because Foreman is the best.Tyson was crushed by Douglas i dont care what excuse you make the point is he was crushed.But is he better than Tyson?Hell no.Tyson would of beat Douglas down if they fought again.Was Scmhelling better than Joe Louis?Nope but he crushed Louis in their first fight the only difference is Louis had a chance to redeem himself and Foreman didnt.
Beating Foreman made Ali's career.Well Norton and Frazier help to make it but Ali never beat Norton.If Ali never fought Foreman he would only be known as a loud mouth who was almost knocked out with one punch by Cooper.Even people like Tyson would beat Ali 9/10 times if they fought.Lewis would be to much for him.So would Bowe.But keep living in this dream world where Ali is the greatest and i will keep living in the real world where Foreman is still healthy and could return to the ring now and still make money.

[ricecrispi]

Actually Foreman trains pretty hard and is very skilled and a gold medal winner in the olympics. Tyson in his young prime couldn't make it to the olympic teams. Foreman is a skilled boxer and people just have that image him and Ali fighting so they think he is unskilled.

Hearns
You are say Foreman didn't train at all but thats not the case. He trained pretty hard for the fight because this was his dream fight. When Ali fought Liston, Foreman dreamed of beating Ali one day. He finally got to get the Ali chip off his shoulder.
Foreman thought no way Ali could beat him, he was invincible.
That has Foreman's big flaw and Ali exposed it.

For the fight both guys trained pretty hard in the same gym and they had to split time for sparring in the ring. They had the same amount of time to train because they arrived in Africa the same time.

Foreman did land clean blows but to the body that had to hurt because those were clean and hard shots. Ali probably was being peeing red for 2 weeks. Those punches would put down most men after 2 rounds straight.

Comparing Ali to Douglas is comparing a Fiat to a Ferrari my man.

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Lol first PBF if you want to talk about somebody getting dominated then Ali was crushed by Frazier in their first fight.Norton dominated Ali in all 3 of their fights by got robbed 2 times.If you want to use the only well Tyson only lost to Douglas because he was ****y and he didnt train then that same excuse has to be used for Foreman.But the only difference is Foreman never really trained.Do you know Foreman?Nope but the people around him at that time did and said Foreman rarely trained period and when he did it was usually just a few rounds of sparring.After Foreman beat Frazier his ego grew to such a level he trully believe he couldnt lose.He started cheating on his wife and doing alot of other stuff.
And as for the fight evidently you havent watched it.Ali dominating Foreman?Only if you are mentally ******ed.Foreman was the one in control up until he got tired.Ali stated himself that Foreman had him out on his feet 5 plus times doing the fight.But Foreman never landed a clean blow to Ali's head so i guess glancing blows hurt Ali.Ali said he knew he could never out box Foreman because Foreman was to fast.Ali also said he knew as long as Foreman was fresh he couldn't try to engage him period.And i think Ali would know more about this than some little boy who think he knows boxing.
Ali didn't fight Foreman again because he knew he would lose and he was lucky to get a win the first time.Ali instead fought Norton again Frazier again.He fought some Japenese wrestler guy instead of giving Foreman a re-match.Ali gave everbody else a re-match didn't he.He had no problem fight some fighters 3 time times.But yet Foreman couldn't get one more chance to prove he was better than Ali.You can find excuses about why they didnt fight but i gave you the right reason.Saddler and Moore kept trying to get Ali back in the ring but Ali knew he wouldnt win.So Foreman tried to get Holmes in the ring just in case he did get another shot at Ali but Holmes people wanted no part of Foreman.Foreman began to lose his desire fight fight and the ended up fighting Young and as you know he lost and Retired.
You know why people will say Ali is the greatest?Because they feel sorry for him.They feel sorry for the brain damage he got from people like Frazier and Norton and Shavers.Foreman has had more fights than Ali.30 of those fights after the age of 38.Does Foreman have any evidence of brain damage?Nope and do you know why?Because he is the greatest.He doesnt have to have people like you feel bad for him.He doenst have to run off at the mouth like Ali did and pay for it.He did his job and went home.He crushed legends.Even when he was old he made young good fighters run from him like cowards.Ali was done at 36 years of age.By then he was losing to people like Spinks.Do you believe a 36 year old Foreman would lose to Spinks?Hell no.Do you think a 40 year old Foreman would lose to Berbick?Hell no.Do you know why again?Because Foreman is the best.Tyson was crushed by Douglas i dont care what excuse you make the point is he was crushed.But is he better than Tyson?Hell no.Tyson would of beat Douglas down if they fought again.Was Scmhelling better than Joe Louis?Nope but he crushed Louis in their first fight the only difference is Louis had a chance to redeem himself and Foreman didnt.
Beating Foreman made Ali's career.Well Norton and Frazier help to make it but Ali never beat Norton.If Ali never fought Foreman he would only be known as a loud mouth who was almost knocked out with one punch by Cooper.Even people like Tyson would beat Ali 9/10 times if they fought.Lewis would be to much for him.So would Bowe.But keep living in this dream world where Ali is the greatest and i will keep living in the real world where Foreman is still healthy and could return to the ring now and still make money.

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[boxer2k5]

When was Ali's prime? no doubt the fight that made his career was the win over foreman that was in 1974, so you should say 1974 was his prime. His win over Liston is overrated because Liston was all f***ed up when they fought and took a dive in one of the fights. . If Muhammad Ali never beat Foreman he would be regarded so much lower. He lost to Leon Spinks in Spinks's 8th professional fight 5 months after Ali won a UD over Shavers. He lost to Ken Norton in 1971, got his jaw broken in that fight. And Ken Norton was a nobody before he fought Ali, the guy he fought before fighting ALi was 22-8 and so were all the opponents Norton had fought up to that point. His only notable win besides beating ALi was stopping Jerry Quarrey.

Beating Foreman is what made ALI be able to say "I am the greatest" He just had the right game plan and style to beat Foreman.

Foreman made Norton and Frazier and Lyle look like nothing while 2 of those guys beat Ali in his prime. Foreman knocked Norton out in 2. Knocked Frazier down 5 times etc....
Ali basically got lucky against Foreman, if they ever rematched Foreman would have beaten his ass. Ali's mind games got to him and fighting in Africa was kinda a freak thing that might have screwed Georges psyche up.

Foreman KO'd Ron Lyle in 5 while Ali was loosing his fight against Lyle until Ali got a gift premature stoppage, the ref stopped the fight just because Ali flurried basically it was one of the worst stoppages I have ever seen, if the ref was honest Lyle would have went on to beat Ali. The win over Lyle is one Ali's biggest wins, and he did not deserve to win that fight. And of course look how much Ali struggled with Frazier but Foreman obliterated him.


George Foreman is better than Ali, George Foreman made Ali, George Foreman is the real greatest of the 70's. George Foreman is the man who made the man who you proclaim falsely as being the man in boxing.

ever heard styles make fights

foreman has th style to beat fraizer and norton and lyle
anyday
but ali has the style to beat all of them
but they can give him problems

remember lyle droped foreman twice

but hey style makes fights
they were both great

[Tha Greatest]

ever heard styles make fights

foreman has th style to beat fraizer and norton and lyle
anyday
but ali has the style to beat all of them
but they can give him problems

remember lyle droped foreman twice

but hey style makes fights
they were both great

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[Sir Fancylot]

Mckay, it's posts like these that make me believe you know **** about boxing.

[Tony Blitz]

George Foreman is the man, I read the interview of him in Facing Ali (great book I might add) and he was talking about how much he respected Ali and he's glad Ali beat him because he deserved to be known as the greatest and a whole bunch of stuff like that, when I finished reading it I had a smile on my face, he's such a great guy I wish more boxers had his attitude.