George Foreman, the Man who made the man that is falsely proclaimed as the man in box

[butterfly1964]

~~~~~~~Please tell me the third fight Ali lost against a hall of famer? One against Norton, one against Frazier. Holmes isnt in there if that's what you're thinking.~~~~~~~~~

* The Holmes fight is in the record book and counts. You can keep your own record of Ali, only remembering the best and ignoring the controversies, the gifts, the sluggish performances, but the official record still stands.

yeah, that's true.

[fabulous]

Agree that Ali's win over Foreman is overrated. Worst illegal holding job ever. I don't see how Ali would have survived early rounds withouth holding Foreman behind the neck at every opportunity. Foreman was just too strong for him.

[butterfly1964]

Agree that Ali's win over Foreman is overrated. Worst illegal holding job ever. I don't see how Ali would have survived early rounds withouth holding Foreman behind the neck at every opportunity. Foreman was just too strong for him.

if you thing what ali did was illegal then you should see what foreman did to his opponents! pushing them, rabbit punching, just watch the first frazier fight. ali was just preventing foreman from doing those things to him. and ali beat foreman fair and square, you can't downgrade the greatest!

[fabulous]

if you thing what ali did was illegal then you should see what foreman did to his opponents! pushing them, rabbit punching, just watch the first frazier fight. ali was just preventing foreman from doing those things to him. and ali beat foreman fair and square, you can't downgrade the greatest!

Yeah right Frazier wanted to fight inside, Foreman pushed him away sometimes. Ali never wanted and in fact couldn't fight inside, especially against Foreman. If you mean rabbit punch which sent Frazier to the canvas then it wasn't nice but that can happen if you turn back to the opponent when you are hurt.
Ali was illegal holder through his entire career, including all fights with Frazier, Norton, Young. But in fight with Foreman it was totally out of control.
Illegal holding was main technique for Ali in that fight. It weared Foreman down and made possible to survive early rounds. Ali also kept talking throught that fight, without illegal holding Foreman wouldn't only brake his jaw like Norton did ...

[butterfly1964]

Yeah right Frazier wanted to fight inside, Foreman pushed him away sometimes. Ali never wanted and in fact couldn't fight inside, especially against Foreman. If you mean rabbit punch which sent Frazier to the canvas then it wasn't nice but that can happen if you turn back to the opponent when you are hurt.
Ali was illegal holder through his entire career, including all fights with Frazier, Norton, Young. But in fight with Foreman it was totally out of control.
Illegal holding was main technique for Ali in that fight. It weared Foreman down and made possible to survive early rounds. Ali also kept talking throught that fight, without illegal holding Foreman wouldn't only brake his jaw like Norton did ...

get out of here. foreman was like the karl malone of boxing (very dirty style of play), at least in the 70s he was. that was what most of his fights consisted of. i remember one fight, was it peralta, it was probably someone else. the bell rang for the first round and foreman rushed out and intentionally just pushed the man down. he was constantly pushing his opponent to throw him off balance, and when he was off-balance, he threw a hay maker, and that's how he won alot of his fights in the early 70s.

[McKay 1]

The guy who started this thread is a moron. Please dont confuse me with the author of this thread. We are not the same person.

[fabulous]

get out of here. foreman was like the karl malone of boxing (very dirty style of play), at least in the 70s he was. that was what most of his fights consisted of. i remember one fight, was it peralta, it was probably someone else. the bell rang for the first round and foreman rushed out and intentionally just pushed the man down. he was constantly pushing his opponent to throw him off balance, and when he was off-balance, he threw a hay maker, and that's how he won alot of his fights in the early 70s.

yeah, Foreman knocked out his opponents because of pushing Seems that we have young Ali's nuthugger here.

[butterfly1964]

yeah, Foreman knocked out his opponents because of pushing Seems that we have young Ali's nuthugger here.

i wasn't even talking about ali, you brought him up first, i was talking about foreman.

[hellfire508]

~~~~~~~Please tell me the third fight Ali lost against a hall of famer? One against Norton, one against Frazier. Holmes isnt in there if that's what you're thinking.~~~~~~~~~

* The Holmes fight is in the record book and counts. You can keep your own record of Ali, only remembering the best and ignoring the controversies, the gifts, the sluggish performances, but the official record still stands.

No I meant Holmes isnt in the hall of fame.

[LondonRingRules]

=========No I meant Holmes isnt in the hall of fame.===========

**Holmes is a HOF fighter. His induction is guaranteed and a mere formality of the rules. Splitting hairs won't get you far in a sport like boxing.