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Wmute.Ali=brain damage Foreman=still can make money boxing if he wants.Who would you rather be lol.
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Ali was already being considered one of the greatest of all time before his exile. After the Folley fight, one of the announcers was comparing him to Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey.Comment
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And Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey said Foremans the best heavyweight they ever saw.Comment
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I'm not saying that as an insult to Foreman. Surely Ali's victory over Foreman sealed his fate as the greatest of all-time. I was just saying that Ali was already considered one of the greatest of all-time without the victory over Foreman.Comment
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I get what you are saying Skydog.But if Foreman of knocked out Ali would people still say Ali was the greatest?No Foreman would be considered the greatest.Comment
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Ali is the greatest..get over it.
He has the best resume...incomparable.
Yeah foreman was his biggest win...and he wasnt even prime! Thats greatnessComment
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hellfire ali is the greatest?but yet who is walking around with brain damage from all of the punches they took?foreman still could box today while ali was done when he was in his mid 30's so you tell me who is greater?who did ali beat that you think foreman couldnt beat?nobody.ali beat foreman one time so your point is?frazier beat ali in thier first bout so suppose he never gave ali a rematch would you say frazier is better than ali?douglas crushed a prime tyson but does that mean douglas is better than tyson?louis got beat senseless by schmeling but is max better than joe?joe and ali got a chance to prove themselves but tyson and foreman never did.ali isnt the greatest and foreman isnt.there is no one heavyweight that you could say is the best there is a list and of course ali is one of them.Comment
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Very intelligent post there.Originally posted by tommyhearns804Comment
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there both greats in my opinion. foreman could've won if he wasnt so pissed haha but it was his style. yea very true foreman is the greater man these days.Comment
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you must be ******edOriginally posted by McKayWhen was Ali's prime? no doubt the fight that made his career was the win over foreman that was in 1974, so you should say 1974 was his prime. His win over Liston is overrated because Liston was all f***ed up when they fought and took a dive in one of the fights. . If Muhammad Ali never beat Foreman he would be regarded so much lower. He lost to Leon Spinks in Spinks's 8th professional fight 5 months after Ali won a UD over Shavers. He lost to Ken Norton in 1971, got his jaw broken in that fight. And Ken Norton was a nobody before he fought Ali, the guy he fought before fighting ALi was 22-8 and so were all the opponents Norton had fought up to that point. His only notable win besides beating ALi was stopping Jerry Quarrey.
Beating Foreman is what made ALI be able to say "I am the greatest" He just had the right game plan and style to beat Foreman.
Foreman made Norton and Frazier and Lyle look like nothing while 2 of those guys beat Ali in his prime. Foreman knocked Norton out in 2. Knocked Frazier down 5 times etc....
Ali basically got lucky against Foreman, if they ever rematched Foreman would have beaten his ass. Ali's mind games got to him and fighting in Africa was kinda a freak thing that might have screwed Georges psyche up.
Foreman KO'd Ron Lyle in 5 while Ali was loosing his fight against Lyle until Ali got a gift premature stoppage, the ref stopped the fight just because Ali flurried basically it was one of the worst stoppages I have ever seen, if the ref was honest Lyle would have went on to beat Ali. The win over Lyle is one Ali's biggest wins, and he did not deserve to win that fight. And of course look how much Ali struggled with Frazier but Foreman obliterated him.
George Foreman is better than Ali, George Foreman made Ali, George Foreman is the real greatest of the 70's. George Foreman is the man who made the man who you proclaim falsely as being the man in boxing.
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