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George Foreman, the Man who made the man that is falsely proclaimed as the man in box
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ali would always beat foreman, over and over again. His style, one dimensional slow, prodding and powerful does not work well against Alis. Ali can absorb all the punishment, in the process big fighters spend themselves and he can slowly break them down with sheer number and speed of punches. If they fought again Foreman would have to do the same thing, hed be more conservative with his punches and as a result loose on points.
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Originally posted by Hecklerali would always beat foreman, over and over again. His style, one dimensional slow, prodding and powerful does not work well against Alis. Ali can absorb all the punishment, in the process big fighters spend themselves and he can slowly break them down with sheer number and speed of punches. If they fought again Foreman would have to do the same thing, hed be more conservative with his punches and as a result loose on points.
It was a magnificent upset for Ali against a fighter who couldn't train properly because of circumstances and Ali admits that it was his most important fight. George was on the cover of SI calling Ali out for the rematch and in every one of his fights to no avail. It was Ali and his team who feared the rematch.
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imo Foreman had the potential to beat Ali. (but he had a bad strategy and his gas tank was not good enough)
Having said that,a prime Foreman would've owned a good majority of today's top boxers.
Prime foreman vs prime tyson, i'd still pick Foreman as the favorite. Especially because Tyson avoided Foreman. He was scared of him.
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Prime Foreman would destroy todays heavyweights. He even could in his 40's.
Having said that,a prime Foreman would've owned a good majority of today's top boxers.
Prime foreman vs prime tyson, i'd still pick Foreman as the favorite. Especially because Tyson avoided Foreman. He was scared of him.
But Ali still kicked his ass!
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Ali was past his prime in 74, Foreman went on a 2 year hiatus i believe...... and no way should he be fighting Foreman in 76 nor should he be fighting ANYONE. Foreman was scared of Ali following that bout, he said he had bad nightmares, so i cant see him being to keen to fight at any rate. My point is, in 74, no matter how times foreman fought Ali he would still loose. Against foreman, liston-esque opponents Ali was at his best. He loved fighting on the back foot, and they never managed to overwhelm him because they lacked both handspeed, and the swarming ducking/weaving style that made Ali uncomfortable. He could simply keep his distance, use range and overwhelm them with handspeed. Guys like foreman didn't really stand a chance because they were all about the knockout, and unfortunately Ali had the conditioning and the jaw to absorb it. If he re-fought Ali what could he do differently? speed and conventional boxing ability are not aqquired overnight, Foreman was a lousy boxer in a technical sense but his strength allowed him to get away with it. He could throw less to ensure he doesn't gas, but that would enable Ali to control the fight without the extra pressure, counterpunch with superior speed and take the fight on points. Foreman was definately a great, but Ali exsposed his weaknesses as did Norton to Ali.Last edited by Heckler; 01-08-2006, 03:33 PM.
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lol don't bring up the wepner thing up again. Wepner has claimed fame as a result of a dirty tactic. Ali met wepner following that fight, Wepner went to shake his hand and Ali stomped on his foot. Ali has always claimed that Wepner stood on his foot when he threw that body shot. And im inclined to believe that the guy with the best conditioned body in boxing history is telling the truth, Wepner was nothing special and wouldn't drop Ali fairly with a body shot if Foreman couldn't.
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Originally posted by Hecklerlol don't bring up the wepner thing up again. Wepner has claimed fame as a result of a dirty tactic. Ali met wepner following that fight, Wepner went to shake his hand and Ali stomped on his foot. Ali has always claimed that Wepner stood on his foot when he threw that body shot. And im inclined to believe that the guy with the best conditioned body in boxing history is telling the truth, Wepner was nothing special and wouldn't drop Ali fairly with a body shot if Foreman couldn't.
Wepner exposed Ali as shot. Gotta credit Ali for hanging in and perservering with ring generalship and help from the judges/ref in his post Foreman career.
Sorry, but I jumped off the Ali bandwagon years before he lost to Spinks. That's right, the "undisputed" self proclaimed greatest lost to Leon Spinks. I really can't think of a more pitiful heavyweight title performance except for maybe the Jack Johnson bout with Battling Johnson that even had the French holding their noses and booing or Liston taking a dive in their 2nd bout or Liston quitting on his stool in the 1st bout.
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