Who actually beats Johnson at his absolute prime?

[QueensburyRules]

Johnson was several years removed from his prime ,at 37 when he fought Willard,but if it makes you happy to so, and draws the necessary attention to you,who am I to deny you what you so obviously crave?

- - JJohnson had an excellent 20 rd toe to toe prep vs Frank Moran prior to Willard. NOBODY gave a raw cowboy like Willard who had little boxing experience and didn't even take up boxing until age 29.

What U know about prime is U never had one save prime ineptness.

[Bronson66]

- - JJohnson had an excellent 20 rd toe to toe prep vs Frank Moran prior to Willard. NOBODY gave a raw cowboy like Willard who had little boxing experience and didn't even take up boxing until age 29.

What U know about prime is U never had one save prime ineptness.

Yeah an excellent prep that took place a year earlier! LOL

[GhostofDempsey]

You've been told multiple times how many UserNames I have had in18 years.I couldn't care less if you accept that.

I retired at 56 ,so I have all the time in the world to post here and and elsewhere.


Z was banned and came back briefly as Match Maker,but his "style"lol and spelling mistakes gave him away when I replied to him he disappeared,then his ban was lifted,it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

Johnson is not one of my favourite fighters his cautious, safety first ,minimal action style turns me off.I much prefer the all action straight into attack style of Dempsey,who is the very antithesis of Johnson.

What I dislike is a bigoted hater like Z who has been posting lies about Johnson for over a decade,been banned for it 3 times and is still repeating the same lies over and over again,unfortunately you have allied yourself with him,I had thought you were better than that, but it seems not.

I'm in the happy position of not having to rely on anyone for financial assistance, whether from bequests or any other source, hence my retirement 20 years ago.


Now this ridiculous situation has gone far enough,its no longer about boxing and hasn't been for some time, it's just an interminable exchange of tit for tat insults in a points scoring spiral of Ground Hog nonsense.

So,I'm ,"leaving the field," "pulling stumps","bailing out" however you want to phrase it , and you may claim a pyrrhic victory , outlasting me by attrition if you so wish.

I'd like to suggest that on future threads,we both confine ourselves to civil responses that are relevant to boxing.

I don't know about you, but this incessant bickering has become excruciatingly boring to me,and must be worse for the innocent posters on the sidelines.
So ,I'm proposing a new start on future topics without the indulgent BS.

No need to reply, your subsequent posts,like mine ,will tell the story.
CIAO.

You lied about your alts. You do care whether I believe you because you cried very hard ahout it. Still crying.

You talk about other posters bans, yet you never told us why your Ivich account was banned, or your primary McVey account on the oher forum. Don’t throw stones in glass houses.

You call us bigots for pointing out Johnson’s weaknesses and hype. I’ve never said one racist thing, never been banned either. But your forum wife has, multiple times. I am a fan of many great black fighters, I just think Johnson was overrated. Why does that cause you so much anger?

[travestyny]

You lied about your alts. You do care whether I believe you because you cried very hard ahout it. Still crying.

You talk about other posters bans, yet you never told us why your Ivich account was banned, or your primary McVey account on the oher forum. Don’t throw stones in glass houses.

You call us bigots for pointing out Johnson’s weaknesses and hype. I’ve never said one racist thing, never been banned either. But your forum wife has, multiple times. I am a fan of many great black fighters, I just think Johnson was overrated. Why does that cause you so much anger?

You’re a liar. I’ve never been banned for racism period. I was once banned for posing about May/pac outside of a pinned thread.

Everyone knows you are a racist. That’s why you are known as GhostofKlansmen by multiple posters. You aren’t fooling anyone.

And if you want to dig into past quotations I’m 100% down for that. Let’s see who the true racist is. Anytime you are ready. Easy work, GhostofKlansmen.

[travestyny]

While you were talking to Bronson, who is ducking me by refusing to list Jack Johnson's best 5 wins when you factor in the ages, activity level, weights and working condition of the fighters.

If he doesn't sack up to my request, perhaps you can come to his emotional reuse and debate me under the above rules?


If anything it will provide some entertainment to the readers. We might even mostly agree on the five men.

You asked me the same question dummy and I answered you. If you disagree, then why don’t you post his 5 best wins. He has plenty to choose from.

But sure if you want a formal debate on it I’m down. Just as soon as you post proof of that quotation you claimed he made. You asked me to “step up to the plate” and I did. When I asked you to step up to the plate you tucked tail and ran away. Now admit that you have no primary source for that quotation or show your proof coward. I’ll be waiting.

ill be checking to verify you ducked it which I know you will after my visit to the Louvre and later my cruise on the Seine. Au revoir, coward.

[Bronson66]

You lied about your alts. You do care whether I believe you because you cried very hard ahout it. Still crying.

You talk about other posters bans, yet you never told us why your Ivich account was banned, or your primary McVey account on the oher forum. Don’t throw stones in glass houses.

You call us bigots for pointing out Johnson’s weaknesses and hype. I’ve never said one racist thing, never been banned either. But your forum wife has, multiple times. I am a fan of many great black fighters, I just think Johnson was overrated. Why does that cause you so much anger?

Sitting at my desk having a cup of tea totally chilled,just about to attempt the Sunday Times crossword,no anger in me whatsoever.
I've made an offer to you to cease this situation,it's up to you now .

I was banned as Ivich for what was termed,an "inappropriate post",you would have to ask the mod responsible for further info on that.

I've called you many things on this thread but never a bigot I reserve that for Z.

I shan't be replying to you any more on this thread whatever ,and however you post here.

Ennui has overwhelmed me on this subject .

[Dr Z]

You asked me the same question dummy and I answered you. If you disagree, then why don’t you post his 5 best wins. He has plenty to choose from.

But sure if you want a formal debate on it I’m down. Just as soon as you post proof of that quotation you claimed he made. You asked me to “step up to the plate” and I did. When I asked you to step up to the plate you tucked tail and ran away. Now admit that you have no primary source for that quotation or show your proof coward. I’ll be waiting.

ill be checking to verify you ducked it which I know you will after my visit to the Louvre and later my cruise on the Seine. Au revoir, coward.

Okay, so we are on to the debate of Jack Johnson top 5 wins in order of difficulty when you factor in the ages, weights, and experience level of the opponent at heavyweight. No asking for the past quotes / ducking out as you do. I could play that game too if I want. I already told you my source. Boxing Illustrated.


I think you get so triggered sometimes that your

reading comprehension suffers. Let us stick to the subject!


As they say in France.


" Profite bien de tes vacances, mon pote. "

I will start the thead next week, okay?

[Bronson66]

[QUOTE=Dr Z;n32505922]

So Tony, Mcvey, Ivich, Tonto62 and Bronson,

How many times are you going to use your factually incorrect reply about me? Again I post where I wish. I will challenge you or any of your numerous alts to a debate on Jack Johsnon best five wins, taking into consideration the weights, ages, and experience level vs. heavyweights. You are chicken &#^t to have this debate here.

If you shrink away again, the challenge will go to your urban city, socialist learning, an apparently WNBA fan buddy in New York City.

By the way we agree on Jeffries defeating Johnson in 1905.

Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. MENDOZA banned

[travestyny]

Okay, so we are on to the debate of Jack Johnson top 5 wins in order of difficulty when you factor in the ages, weights, and experience level of the opponent at heavyweight. No asking for the past quotes / ducking out as you do. I could play that game too if I want. I already told you my source. Boxing Illustrated.


I think you get so triggered sometimes that your

reading comprehension suffers. Let us stick to the subject!


As they say in France.


" Profite bien de tes vacances, mon pote. "

I will start the thead next week, okay?

Sure. Once you post proof of that source should be good to go. Don’t bltch out.

Post the link to where the quotation is found and then give the primary source for that specific quotation.

YOU boight up that subject. Finish what you started. I’ll be waiting.

[Dr Z]

Sure. Once you post proof of that source should be good to go. Don’t bltch out.

YOU boight up that subject. Finish what you started. I’ll be waiting.

I told you where to look. DUH, you are trying your best to back out of a debate already. I'm ready for it, are you chicken?


Your old friend Bronson says Jeffries would have beaten Jack Jonhson in 1905. But you are free to list his win over a man who had to lose approximately 60-80 pounds of fat, was out of the ring for six years and old as one of Jack Johson's best five wins.


We are waiting....


I predict you will back out of the debate under the given rules. Prove me wrong for once.