Who actually beats Johnson at his absolute prime?

[GhostofDempsey]

I have told you several times I have had 2 usernames here and 2 on ESB ,I have no idea who Incapable is but it certainly isn't me!
I keep bringing up my ESB posts?
Wasn't it you who said he was going to bring them here,and embarrass me,giving me a death of a thousand cuts?lol

Again I have several times repeated I have absolutely no problem with you re-posting any of my content from ESB,why would I have?

Post as many here as you like, all of them if you want!

Why would it make me sweating and angry?
I'm neither why would I be?

I don't drink Scotch,neither single malt or blended.
You are busy constructing an alternate life and habits for me in your head , its positively weird!

What does Free Masonry have to do with this boxing forum?

Are you sure you aren't Mendozy, MatchMaker, DrZ?

He is also fixated on it, and also totally ignorant about it, stating they are *****philes and
devil worshippers.
Did you know nearly 20 of your Presidents were Masons? Not the present one obviously.lol

Did you know Jack Dempsey was a Mason? Did he have a secret decoder ring?

Would his fellow members grant him3 wishes like Aladdin and his Magic Lamp?


Seriously Fella, you've lost the plot big time,you're developing a fixation about me,inventing things in your head .

Get some help before you tip over the edge,lighten up Son !

This is just a boxing forum ,not the Bible ,The Koran ,or the Bhagavad Gita ! lol

Anyway , thanks for the morning fun and games, it's already brightened up my day.

Thanks for ducking my questions again. At least I was able to expose your double standards and hypocrisy. There is no plot, agenda or other paranoid conspiracy here. Fans and posters are allowed to criticize fighters, especially when we can produce rational reasons for doing so. It is not a hate agenda or rooted in something more sinister. Hold your forum wife to the same standard for her hatred of all things Dempsey. Talk about irrational.

[Bronson66]

Thanks for ducking my questions again. At least I was able to expose your double standards and hypocrisy. There is no plot, agenda or other paranoid conspiracy here. Fans and posters are allowed to criticize fighters, especially when we can produce rational reasons for doing so. It is not a hate agenda or rooted in something more sinister. Hold your forum wife to the same standard for her hatred of all things Dempsey. Talk about irrational.

God you are a boring piece of work aren't you!
Is this really all you have?
Work and this benighted forum,where a thread can go unanswered for days!

Don't you have any interests outside of an 80 years dead man whom you never met?
There's certainly plenty to criticize Johnson for,him and many other champions.Ray Robinson beat his Wife so badly she suffered 5 miscarriages,does that mean he wasn't a great fighter?
I'm only concerned about their boxing,that's what I judge them on!
I'm not responsible for what anyone else posts here and I neither endorse or condemn a lot of stuff posted by various people.

If you want to insult other posters why don't you do it directly why drag me into your little feuds?
Why insult them when you are replying to me ? WTF has it to do with me?
That's irrational!

You've got your little Remora Fish,to follow you now ,and he will cling to you like a limpet because he has no friends ,and no credibility.Good luck to you both,you're well suited!

[Bronson66]

[QUOTE=Dr Z;n32505430]

Nope you've added some.I've had two User names on both Forums./QUOTE]



YOU ARE LYING ABOUT YOURSELF. Stop making bogus claims about yourself.



YOU ARE LYING ABOUT YOURSELF. You used about 7 poster names.



But congratulations as you have finally admitted Jeffries beats Johsnon in 1905. Personally I think he KO's him.

Mcvey at ESB better known here as Ivich / Bronson writes: 1905 Jeffries edges it.

https://www.*************.com/thread...ohnson.739400/

If you want to believe so ,and it makes you happy fine go with it . Mr Half A Braincell.

Been visiting ESB as a "guest?" I bet it's eating you up you'll never be allowed back there!

What you did there you were banned for life for ,and you've been banned for it already once here,and directly you were allowed back here you, like a moth to a flame, began it all over again! lol
You're obsessed!

John Arthur Johnson lives rent free in your head,in that space where normal people have brains!

If you weren't the person I know you to be,I'd actually feel sorry for you,but you are ,and so you know what you can do,don't you! LOL

[GhostofDempsey]

God you are a boring piece of work aren't you!
Is this really all you have?
Work and this benighted forum,where a thread can go unanswered for days!

Don't you have any interests outside of an 80 years dead man whom you never met?
There's certainly plenty to criticize Johnson for,him and many other champions.Ray Robinson beat his Wife so badly she suffered 5 miscarriages,does that mean he wasn't a great fighter?
I'm only concerned about their boxing,that's what I judge them on!
I'm not responsible for what anyone else posts here and I neither endorse or condemn a lot of stuff posted by various people.

If you want to insult other posters why don't you do it directly why drag me into your little feuds?
Why insult them when you are replying to me ? WTF has it to do with me?
That's irrational!

You've got your little Remora Fish,to follow you now ,and he will cling to you like a limpet because he has no friends ,and no credibility.Good luck to you both,you're well suited!

Ironic you asking me if I have any other interests…you are the one with a half dozen alts on two forums and well over 100k posts. Most of them stubbornly arguing with strangers at all hours.

I’m not holding Johnson’s personal life against him. I just don’t think he deserves all the praise and worship he receives. You’re such a hopeless fanboy you’ll defend him to your last breath. Did he remember you in his will?

You began posting about Dr. Z thinking he was banned and bringing him up constantly, even on this reply. Your forum wife is one of the worse posters on this forum, her post history is full of racism, bigotry, and childish tantrums. She insists on following me about for attention like a lost puppy. If you saw some of her worst postings you might even be embarrassed. Then again you don’t strike me as someone who is capable of shame or humility. Good luck to you both. You deserve one another.

[Bronson66]

Ironic you asking me if I have any other interests…you are the one with a half dozen alts on two forums and well over 100k posts. Most of them stubbornly arguing with strangers at all hours.

I’m not holding Johnson’s personal life against him. I just don’t think he deserves all the praise and worship he receives. You’re such a hopeless fanboy you’ll defend him to your last breath. Did he remember you in his will?

You began posting about Dr. Z thinking he was banned and bringing him up constantly, even on this reply. Your forum wife is one of the worse posters on this forum, her post history is full of racism, bigotry, and childish tantrums. She insists on following me about for attention like a lost puppy. If you saw some of her worst postings you might even be embarrassed. Then again you don’t strike me as someone who is capable of shame or humility. Good luck to you both. You deserve one another.

You've been told multiple times how many UserNames I have had in18 years.I couldn't care less if you accept that.

I retired at 56 ,so I have all the time in the world to post here and and elsewhere.


Z was banned and came back briefly as Match Maker,but his "style"lol and spelling mistakes gave him away when I replied to him he disappeared,then his ban was lifted,it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

Johnson is not one of my favourite fighters his cautious, safety first ,minimal action style turns me off.I much prefer the all action straight into attack style of Dempsey,who is the very antithesis of Johnson.

What I dislike is a bigoted hater like Z who has been posting lies about Johnson for over a decade,been banned for it 3 times and is still repeating the same lies over and over again,unfortunately you have allied yourself with him,I had thought you were better than that, but it seems not.

I'm in the happy position of not having to rely on anyone for financial assistance, whether from bequests or any other source, hence my retirement 20 years ago.


Now this ridiculous situation has gone far enough,its no longer about boxing and hasn't been for some time, it's just an interminable exchange of tit for tat insults in a points scoring spiral of Ground Hog nonsense.

So,I'm ,"leaving the field," "pulling stumps","bailing out" however you want to phrase it , and you may claim a pyrrhic victory , outlasting me by attrition if you so wish.

I'd like to suggest that on future threads,we both confine ourselves to civil responses that are relevant to boxing.

I don't know about you, but this incessant bickering has become excruciatingly boring to me,and must be worse for the innocent posters on the sidelines.
So ,I'm proposing a new start on future topics without the indulgent BS.

No need to reply, your subsequent posts,like mine ,will tell the story.
CIAO.

[Bronson66]

[QUOTE=Dr Z;n32505922]

So Tony, Mcvey, Ivich, Tonto62 and Bronson,

How many times are you going to use your factually incorrect reply about me? Again I post where I wish. I will challenge you or any of your numerous alts to a debate on Jack Johsnon best five wins, taking into consideration the weights, ages, and experience level vs. heavyweights. You are chicken &#^t to have this debate here.

If you shrink away again, the challenge will go to your urban city, socialist learning, an apparently WNBA fan buddy in New York City.

By the way we agree on Jeffries defeating Johnson in 1905.

You don't post on ESB ,you are permanently banned . Prime for Prime Johnson beats Jeffries imo.
In1905 190lbs ,when he fought Jeffries in1910 he was at his peak, a muscled 208lbs . That version beats the crap out of any Jeffries!
I keep my interaction with you to a minimum,because if you engage regularly with a moron,it can only reflect badly on yourself.

Now, I'm going to grab a shower and meet a friend for a lunchtime drink , in a nice real ale pub in my home town.
You can stay here and wait for my return,or FO,WTF cares?

[QueensburyRules]

Johnson was several years removed from his prime ,at 37 when he fought Willard,but if it makes you happy to so, and draws the necessary attention to you,who am I to deny you what you so obviously crave?

- - JJohnson had an excellent 20 rd toe to toe prep vs Frank Moran prior to Willard. NOBODY gave a raw cowboy like Willard who had little boxing experience and didn't even take up boxing until age 29.

What U know about prime is U never had one save prime ineptness.

[Bronson66]

- - JJohnson had an excellent 20 rd toe to toe prep vs Frank Moran prior to Willard. NOBODY gave a raw cowboy like Willard who had little boxing experience and didn't even take up boxing until age 29.

What U know about prime is U never had one save prime ineptness.

Yeah an excellent prep that took place a year earlier! LOL

[GhostofDempsey]

You've been told multiple times how many UserNames I have had in18 years.I couldn't care less if you accept that.

I retired at 56 ,so I have all the time in the world to post here and and elsewhere.


Z was banned and came back briefly as Match Maker,but his "style"lol and spelling mistakes gave him away when I replied to him he disappeared,then his ban was lifted,it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

Johnson is not one of my favourite fighters his cautious, safety first ,minimal action style turns me off.I much prefer the all action straight into attack style of Dempsey,who is the very antithesis of Johnson.

What I dislike is a bigoted hater like Z who has been posting lies about Johnson for over a decade,been banned for it 3 times and is still repeating the same lies over and over again,unfortunately you have allied yourself with him,I had thought you were better than that, but it seems not.

I'm in the happy position of not having to rely on anyone for financial assistance, whether from bequests or any other source, hence my retirement 20 years ago.


Now this ridiculous situation has gone far enough,its no longer about boxing and hasn't been for some time, it's just an interminable exchange of tit for tat insults in a points scoring spiral of Ground Hog nonsense.

So,I'm ,"leaving the field," "pulling stumps","bailing out" however you want to phrase it , and you may claim a pyrrhic victory , outlasting me by attrition if you so wish.

I'd like to suggest that on future threads,we both confine ourselves to civil responses that are relevant to boxing.

I don't know about you, but this incessant bickering has become excruciatingly boring to me,and must be worse for the innocent posters on the sidelines.
So ,I'm proposing a new start on future topics without the indulgent BS.

No need to reply, your subsequent posts,like mine ,will tell the story.
CIAO.

You lied about your alts. You do care whether I believe you because you cried very hard ahout it. Still crying.

You talk about other posters bans, yet you never told us why your Ivich account was banned, or your primary McVey account on the oher forum. Don’t throw stones in glass houses.

You call us bigots for pointing out Johnson’s weaknesses and hype. I’ve never said one racist thing, never been banned either. But your forum wife has, multiple times. I am a fan of many great black fighters, I just think Johnson was overrated. Why does that cause you so much anger?

[Bronson66]

You lied about your alts. You do care whether I believe you because you cried very hard ahout it. Still crying.

You talk about other posters bans, yet you never told us why your Ivich account was banned, or your primary McVey account on the oher forum. Don’t throw stones in glass houses.

You call us bigots for pointing out Johnson’s weaknesses and hype. I’ve never said one racist thing, never been banned either. But your forum wife has, multiple times. I am a fan of many great black fighters, I just think Johnson was overrated. Why does that cause you so much anger?

Sitting at my desk having a cup of tea totally chilled,just about to attempt the Sunday Times crossword,no anger in me whatsoever.
I've made an offer to you to cease this situation,it's up to you now .

I was banned as Ivich for what was termed,an "inappropriate post",you would have to ask the mod responsible for further info on that.

I've called you many things on this thread but never a bigot I reserve that for Z.

I shan't be replying to you any more on this thread whatever ,and however you post here.

Ennui has overwhelmed me on this subject .