Who actually beats Johnson at his absolute prime?

[Bronson66]

[QUOTE=Dr Z;n32505922]

So Tony, Mcvey, Ivich, Tonto62 and Bronson,

How many times are you going to use your factually incorrect reply about me? Again I post where I wish. I will challenge you or any of your numerous alts to a debate on Jack Johsnon best five wins, taking into consideration the weights, ages, and experience level vs. heavyweights. You are chicken &#^t to have this debate here.

If you shrink away again, the challenge will go to your urban city, socialist learning, an apparently WNBA fan buddy in New York City.

By the way we agree on Jeffries defeating Johnson in 1905.

Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. MENDOZA banned

[Bronson66]

No idiot. YOU find a copy of it. You are the one who posted it with no link, no picture, NOTHING. Post your proof that it even exists. If you expect me to just take your word for it when you are a known liar, that’s not happening. I already pulled your card in the past when you claimed to have full Harry Wills fights and I know you were lying. I challenged you to prove that in the dome and you ducked it, as usual.
The magazine is NOT a primary source. The article was supposedly from the 1960’s. Johnson died before that. So post the proof that the article exists and let us see what the primary source is for the quotation.

Stop ducking it or admit you have NOTHING. Then we move on from there. Why would I be afraid to post something that I’ve literally already posted and is simply a matter of opinion you fool?

You challenged me once. I ACCEPTED AND PROVED EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. Now it’s your turn. Put up or admit you have nothing. I’ll be waiting.

He's been doing **** like this for years! I don't think he knows what a primary source is! he has claimed he has a"friend," who has film of Greb fighting,but he is sworn to secrecy about it.

Klompton called him a barefaced liar and asked him to prove it by stating the serial number of the film,he didn't reply.

He claims to have seen Langford v Hague,he hasnt ,it doesn't exist.

There are two unique things that happened in that fight if he had seen the fight he would know what they were,when I asked him he didn't have a clue what I was referring to!

He claimed the Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin fight was filmed,it wasn't and said Ted Spoon agreed with him ,I contacted Ted and he stated he had never spoken to him and said you can post that!

I posted three authors Gilbert Odd,Adam Pollack, and Steve Compton,stating the fight wasn't filmed because the cameras failed to work.

A re-enactment was made by S Lubin and Z claimed that counted as the fight being filmed and reneged on our bet.

He is a proven liar many times over,a bigoted hater, and a bet welsher.

Still lying about being banned from ESB, saying he posts there when he likes .

Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. MENDOZA banned

He wouldn't be here is he could post there!

Having a bet with him is a waste of time because when he is proven wrong he will weasel out of honouring it.

[Bronson66]

Dude is a certified weirdo. Making demand after demand of others but when it comes to his turn to step up all he does is lie and avoid. I’m not even sure what he is trying to prove with his whole Johnson 5 best wins thing. Any pro who has at least 5 wins can garner opinions about which were the 5 best. If he disagrees, why doesn’t he post his own opinion of Johnson’s 5 best wins? On top of being a liar and a ducking coward, he honestly just doesn’t seem very bright.

He has pathologically hated Johnson for over a decade he's obsessed by him,its a sickness.

[Bronson66]

DUCK, DUCK, DUCK..... The onus is one YOU if you disagree with something to counter not I.

You're chick $#^t to engage in a debate with me.

Clearly you are unarmed and I say small brained for a debate with me. I would embarrass you.

You lie, and always seek an out which in this case you can not prove even though I listed the source.

Last chance to debate me. Otherwise skip my posts.

Listen, for about the hundredth time,when you claim something the onus is on you to prove it,not others to disprove it!

You couldn't win a debate with my 3 years old Grandson!

[GhostofJuliusStreicher]

Dude is a certified weirdo. Making demand after demand of others but when it comes to his turn to step up all he does is lie and avoid. I’m not even sure what he is trying to prove with his whole Johnson 5 best wins thing. Any pro who has at least 5 wins can garner opinions about which were the 5 best. If he disagrees, why doesn’t he post his own opinion of Johnson’s 5 best wins? On top of being a liar and a ducking coward, he honestly just doesn’t seem very bright.

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[Bronson66]

Does another board count as proof on waht was siad by Johnson? I want to get you on record first. Your move, and tell us again that Jeffries would defeat Johnson in 1905 because you wrote it.


If you want to debate Jack Johnson's top five wins under the terms under the conditions I layed out with me, go for it . After all, it falls under this thread.



You may argue that because he beat Ketchel ( you claim a pre -arraignment fight ) means he would beat X heavyweight. This middle weight who wore cowboy boots to look taller and wore a tech coat to look heavier. That is if you list him Jack's top five wins. He floored Johsnon and reports say Johnson got up as was still dazed after the fight ended. New paper reports.


Your grandson can help you because you need it.

Yes, another board counts when it states.Mendoza.Dr Z,is banned!


Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. MENDOZA banned

I stated in1905 Jeffries edges Johnson,I also stated, which you did not mention ,that prime for prime , Johnson beats the crap out of Jeffries,he would have had a lot more experience and be18lbs of muscle heavier.

No I don't want to debate with you,I confine myself to correcting your daily lies.

You fasten on Johnson beating a 170pounds Ketchel,but you never mention how much weight advantage Jeffries had over
Choynski . 57lbs
Fitz1. 39lbs
Corbett1. 30lbs
Finnegan . 60lbs
Baker . 26lbs
Griffin. 40lbs
Armstrong. 25lbs
Everett . 26lbs
Sharkey1 .20lbs
Corbett2. 27lbs
Fitz 2. 47 lbs
Sharkey2. 27lbs

If you're so hung up on Johnson's weight advantage over Ketchel,
why have you always ignored Jeffries weight advantages over those I've just posted?

Why are you going into unasked for detail about Ketchel, has anyone requested it?

[Bronson66]

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No he isn't very smart,he constructs illogical,and irrelevant arguments and then,when they are smashed to bits ,promptly moves the gaol posts,he is definitely not dealing with a full deck.

[GhostofDempsey]

No he isn't very smart,he constructs illogical,and irrelevant arguments and then,when they are smashed to bits ,promptly moves the gaol posts,he is definitely not dealing with a full deck.

You are such a coward. You begged me for a truce on this thread and now you resort to childish alts and trolling. No wonder you were banned on both boxing forums.

[Bronson66]

You are such a coward. You begged me for a truce on this thread and now you resort to childish alts and trolling. No wonder you were banned on both boxing forums.

That isn't me! lol I've begged you for nothing ! I'm not responding to you further on here . I told you that already!
I won't ask for an apology ,just get your facts right next time, and confine yourself to insulting those who are still talking to you!

[GhostofDempsey]

That isn't me! lol I've begged you for nothing ! I'm not responding to you further on here . I told you that already!
I won't ask for an apology ,just get your facts right next time, and confine yourself to insulting those who are still talking to you!

You still got my name in your mouth, can't let it go. Even have to resort to alts and trolling. I gave you a chance to have the last word but you couldn't let it rest. Pathetic.