Who actually beats Johnson at his absolute prime?

[QueensburyRules]

I supposed NY Commissioner Farley was a transplant from the 21st century, because he's called straight up bullshlt on your claim while being right smack in the middle of it. You gonna accuse him of applying 21st century "thinking" to early 1900's reality?

The guy who had the Boxing Writers Association of America award for Honesty and Integrity named after him.....I suppose you'll accuse him of lying, hmmm?

NO POLITICAL OR OFFICIAL OPPOSITION TO THIS BOUT. He straight up stated Dempsey was ducking.
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- - Nice to see you float the gaseous Farly and NY Commish that previous had prevented Harry from fighting the agreeable Dempsey organized by HarryFrazee and NY Yankee owner Ruppert for a Wills/Dempsey record purse Title Bout in Yankee Stadium.

Odiferous gas is you.

[GhostofDempsey]

I posted the fights in which Langford and his opponents weighed in.
You accept the weights when you think they help your agenda,and discard those that contradict you.
Langford being blind in one eye after his1917 fight with Fulton has absolutely no relevance to how much he weighed in the fights .
You excuse Dempsey not fighting his number one challenger for years,because you are a fan boy.
You condemn Johnson for not defending against his black challengers,because you hate him.


Ive been proven wrong twice this week ,by Apples on his Marciano thread and Queenie on Usyk's managerial connections.

I readily admitted I was wrong to both of them.
Something you have neither the balls or the manners to do.
You are a hating hypocrite.

Langford was not a lean and mean 180 or 190, he was a bloated 180+ while Harry was a chiseled and muscular 220+ fighter. Even reaching as high as 235 in his fights. He had a 7 - 8” height advantage to go with his weight and strength. Ideal for a wrestler who relied on clinching, holding, and leaning his weight on opponents.

I’ve admitted I was wrong in posts, even wih you when I incorrectly said there were riots after Johnson defeated Burns, which I should have said was Jeffries. You corrected me (as you often love to do even when it’s something petty like a misspelling) just so you can be right at all costs. You’re a petty little man who can’t get along with anyone here or on the other site. You even have alts that you use to quote yourself and pat yourself on the back, that is psychotic.

[GhostofDempsey]

- - Nice to see you float the gaseous Farly and NY Commish that previous had prevented Harry from fighting the agreeable Dempsey organized by HarryFrazee and NY Yankee owner Ruppert for a Wills/Dempsey record purse Title Bout in Yankee Stadium.

Odiferous gas is you.

Another anonymous article he keeps recycling. Desperation.

[QueensburyRules]

Langford was not a lean and mean 180 or 190, he was a bloated 180+ while Harry was a chiseled and muscular 220+ fighter. Even reaching as high as 235 in his fights. He had a 7 - 8” height advantage to go with his weight and strength. Ideal for a wrestler who relied on clinching, holding, and leaning his weight on opponents.

- - Not only that, but in Wills' first Langford bout, he was KOed. Then he won a few before Sam put him down again...ouch...

Wills went on a long win streak after that, but given they fought over 20x when Sam was more than half blind, I suspect it was more exhibition for the fans who wanted to see Langford who had plenty of white fans, likely more than his black fans.

[QueensburyRules]

Regarding any Frazee deal for New York circa 1922, here is NY Governor saying he has no problem with the bout.
Still waiting for you to show us something QueensburyRules

I couldn't find any reason that Dempsey turned down the Frazee offer. All I saw was that he left to go to Europe without a reply. So still wondering where you got that both agreed and where was any evidence that it was shut down thereafter.

Title: New York Governor Announces Hands Off Attitude Toward Mixed Title Bout
Indianapolis Times June 30, 1922
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- - Wispy like you. Told you back when I posted a few articles when Frazee was turned down by Boston and then NY the next year. Buried in the archives now

I recall you admitted you never knew that, but of course for a long time you had me on ignore, and at one point got mad when I didn't reply because I was on Ignor[ant]

Utterly priceless, an idiot without the redemption of being a savant...

[Bronson66]

- - Wispy like you. Told you back when I posted a few articles when Frazee was turned down by Boston and then NY the next year. Buried in the archives now

I recall you admitted you never knew that, but of course for a long time you had me on ignore, and at one point got mad when I didn't reply because I was on Ignor[ant]

Utterly priceless, an idiot without the redemption of being a savant...

"All buried in the archives".

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Wispy like you. Told you back when I posted a few articles when Frazee was turned down by Boston and then NY the next year. Buried in the archives now

I recall you admitted you never knew that, but of course for a long time you had me on ignore, and at one point got mad when I didn't reply because I was on Ignor[ant]

Utterly priceless, an idiot without the redemption of being a savant...

You're correct the above is not a good source

1. The $500K demand was Kearns decision not Dempsey's. Kearns looked bad after the Carpentier fight taking 300K instead of a percentage. The newspaper boys pointed out that Dempsey would have made 476K if Kearns had taken the percentage. Kearns was determined not to have egg on his face twice so he demanded Rickard guarantee 500K or no deal, (which Rickard kept balking at.)

This is why the Greb fight was never realistic with only 100K being guaranteed.

2. For Carpentier there were somewhere between 70K and 74K at Boyles Thirty Acres not 90K.

3. Frazee was blocked by the administrator of the Polo Grounds (NY) and the City of Boston closed Fenway Park to mixed bouts.

The Polo Grounds would become available once James Farley put pressure on the City through his mentor State Seante Minority Leader Jimmy Walker (Tammany Hall, later Mayor) but it was too late by then.

New Jersey flipped-flopped on the issue of mixed bouts, with one branch of government saying no and another saying yes, with neither sure who held authority.

[GhostofDempsey]

- - Wispy like you. Told you back when I posted a few articles when Frazee was turned down by Boston and then NY the next year. Buried in the archives now

I recall you admitted you never knew that, but of course for a long time you had me on ignore, and at one point got mad when I didn't reply because I was on Ignor[ant]

Utterly priceless, an idiot without the redemption of being a savant...

Ask him who wrote those anonymous articles…that should be interesting.

[Bronson66]

Ask him who wrote those anonymous articles…that should be interesting.

Who wrote all the ones you haven't posted?lol

[GhostofDempsey]

Who wrote all the ones you haven't posted?lol

Most of my sources are the ones I mentioned. Moyle, Pollack, Ayc@ck, Heller, Menke, and quite a few more. Early to rise and late to bed just to argue with strangers across the pond. Ha!