ABC org and Vit Klit lovers and Lewis haters...

[QueensburyRules]

Time for a ranking list

1990 - 2025 Heavyweights
35 years of the Big Boys in Boxing

1. Lennox Lewis, UK
2. Wladimir Klitschko, UKR
3. Oleksandr Usyk, UKR
4. Tyson Fury, UK
5. Evander Holyfield, US
6. Mike Tyson, US
7. Riddock Bowe, US (sp)
8. Deontay Wilder, US
9. Anthony Joshua, UK
10. Zhilei Zhang, CHI
11. Ike Ibeabuchi, NIG
12. Vitali Klitschko, UKR
13. George Foreman, US
14. Joseph Parker, NZ
15. Daniel Dubois, UK
16. Larry Holmes, US
17. David Tua, AUS
18. Frank Bruno, UK
19. Oliver McCall, US
20. Andrew Golota, POL
21. Hasim Rahman, US
22. Chris Byrd, US
23. Shannon Briggs, US
24. Andy Ruiz Jr, US
25. Luis Ortiz, CUB
26. Tommy Morrison, US
27. Donovan Razor Ruddock, Canada
28. Alexander Povetkin, RUS
29. Dillian Whyte, UK
30. Michael Moorer, US
31. Joe Joyce, UK
32. Agit Kabayel, GER
33. Ray Mercer, US
34. Corrie Sanders, SA
35. Jarrell Miller, US
36. Ruslan Chagaev, UZB
37. David Haye, UK
38. Sultan Ibragimov, RUS
39. Lamon Brewster, US
40. Kubrat Pulev, BUL
41. Chris Arreola, US
42. Filip Hrgovic, CRO
43. Derrick Chisora, UK
44. Larry Donald, US
45. Tony Tucker, US
46. Roy Jones Jr., US
47. John Ruiz, US
48. Martin Bakole, CON
49. Alex Stewart, US
50. Charles Martin, US

- - Man, that's some kinda sled dog nose to a n a l lineup.

Clearly Wlad and then Vit the top heavies with the rest debatable...simples...!!!

[JAB5239]

Time for a ranking list

1990 - 2025 Heavyweights
35 years of the Big Boys in Boxing

1. Lennox Lewis, UK
2. Wladimir Klitschko, UKR
3. Oleksandr Usyk, UKR
4. Tyson Fury, UK
5. Evander Holyfield, US
6. Mike Tyson, US
7. Riddock Bowe, US (sp)
8. Deontay Wilder, US
9. Anthony Joshua, UK
10. Zhilei Zhang, CHI
11. Ike Ibeabuchi, NIG
12. Vitali Klitschko, UKR
13. George Foreman, US
14. Joseph Parker, NZ
15. Daniel Dubois, UK
16. Larry Holmes, US
17. David Tua, AUS
18. Frank Bruno, UK
19. Oliver McCall, US
20. Andrew Golota, POL
21. Hasim Rahman, US
22. Chris Byrd, US
23. Shannon Briggs, US
24. Andy Ruiz Jr, US
25. Luis Ortiz, CUB
26. Tommy Morrison, US
27. Donovan Razor Ruddock, Canada
28. Alexander Povetkin, RUS
29. Dillian Whyte, UK
30. Michael Moorer, US
31. Joe Joyce, UK
32. Agit Kabayel, GER
33. Ray Mercer, US
34. Corrie Sanders, SA
35. Jarrell Miller, US
36. Ruslan Chagaev, UZB
37. David Haye, UK
38. Sultan Ibragimov, RUS
39. Lamon Brewster, US
40. Kubrat Pulev, BUL
41. Chris Arreola, US
42. Filip Hrgovic, CRO
43. Derrick Chisora, UK
44. Larry Donald, US
45. Tony Tucker, US
46. Roy Jones Jr., US
47. John Ruiz, US
48. Martin Bakole, CON
49. Alex Stewart, US
50. Charles Martin, US

Always love your lists!!! I think I'd put Fury behind Holyfield. Was thinking Usyk as well, but he just keep moving the needle in a positive way.

[Willow The Wisp]

- - Man, that's some kinda sled dog nose to a n a l lineup.

Clearly Wlad and then Vit the top heavies with the rest debatable...simples...!!!

Lol....you may be right. But 31 of those seen live and up close, so Ive got my opinions deeply embedded.
You?

It's all just a subjective thang my serendipitous brah.

[Dr Z]

Explain this....

Klitschko agrees in February 2005 to make a mandatory defense against Rahman on April 30, 2005, at New York’s Madison Square Garden.

The April 30, 2005, meeting is rescheduled to June 18, 2005, after Vitali suffers what is called a “thigh injury” while jogging.

Klitschko re-schedules this mandatory defense to July 23, 2005, claiming his thigh did not respond to treatment.

The July 23, 2005, re-scheduling is postponed yet again after Klitschko claims his thigh injury has spread to his back.

Klitschko undergoes what his handlers refer to as “minor back surgery,” on April 19, 2005.

“WBC Rule 1.27 Inactivity of a Champion” states: “When a world champion is:
inactive for more than six (6) months but less than one (1) year, for certified medical reasons, or for whatever legal impediment or other reason beyond his control is unable to defend his championship within the time periods prescribed by the Rules and Regulations, the WBC may determine an interim champion pursuant to Rule 1.25 hereof.”

Don King Productions successfully petitions the WBC in May 2005 to sanction for its interim heavyweight championship on Aug. 13, 2005, the match between WBC No. 1-ranked mandatory challenger Hasim Rahman and WBC No. 2-ranked, and No. 2 mandatory challenger, Monte “Two Gunz” Barrett pursuant to WBC Rule 1.27.

Don King implores Klitschko to face Rahman on Aug. 13, avoiding the necessity of the interim championship bout. Klitschko claims he cannot be ready to fight by Aug. 13. After Rahman and Barrett sign to fight each other, it is leaked to the media that Klitschko suddenly recovers to the extent that he is fit to fight on HBO Sept. 24.

Klitschko’s hand-picked opponent, Oleg Maskaev, is subsequently rejected by HBO as a suitable opponent according to media reports.

You want me to explain the word MAY?

Well the WBC did not order this match to happen. Got it now?

No more, your hater teeth are showing...

May I see you 2000-2025 heavyweight rankings as I have listed here? Show them please. Why do I get the feeling you won't.

[Marchegiano]

I'm not sure what the point of the ratings lists are in this thread but whatever, I don't think any list maker needs much prompt to get to making the lists. Which, BTW, is a tradition older than ratings. The lists of good men are what inspired ratings to exist in the first place. I always just feel like I'm carrying on with boxing culture, which is good enough reason tbh. Just saying, Don't get the point.



2000-2025

1. Usyk
2. Wlad
3. Joshua
4. Lewis
5. Fury
6. Vitali
7. Byrd
8. Wilder
9. RJJ
10. Haye
11. Valuev
12. Ruiz
13. Holyfield
14. Ruiz
15. Dubois
16. Parker
17. Tua
18. Briggs
19. Chagaev
20. Sanders
21. Ibragimov
22. Rahman
23. Peter
24. Maskaev
25. Liakhovich
26. Brewster
27. Stiverne
28. Povetkin
29. Chambers
30. Hunter

I did 30 then noticed Z only did half that and Willow did 50 but opened it to 90s. so 30 in the era asked is actually just fine.

[Marchegiano]

Nh bro, not even I can tell you why Byrd so ****ing high.

[JAB5239]

You want me to explain the word MAY?

Well the WBC did not order this match to happen. Got it now?

No more, your hater teeth are showing...

May I see you 2000-2025 heavyweight rankings as I have listed here? Show them please. Why do I get the feeling you won't.

No I want you to explain why vits claimed he wouldn't be ready to fight, but as soon as Rahman announced another fight he miraculously was able to make a different fight? I want you to explain why you think it's ok the WBA didn't follow their own rules. If you believe Lewis ducked Vits after beating him and deciding to retire and stay that way, you must also believe Vits ducked Rahman, no? This wasn't just postponed once, it was over and over with different excuses every time. Vitaly didn't conduct himself as a champion, that much is obvious. And the WBC wouldn't even follow their own rules. The who situation was pathetic.

What we me posting a list have to do with the topic at hand? Absolutely nothing, that's what. You just want to deviate from the road your on because you know it leads to either saying Vits ducked or Lewis didn't. Pick your poison.

[Dr Z]

JAB5239

WBA Or WBC? And the word MAY.

Vitali had many WBC title fights. Yes, Lewis who tried to make a match with Roy Jones post Vtiali ducked the rematch that the WBC ordered!

You are scared to produce a list,but you participated in a combat match at 50+ years of age?

[JAB5239]

JAB5239

WBA Or WBC? And the word MAY.

Vitali had many WBC title fights. Yes, Lewis who tried to make a match with Roy Jones post Vtiali ducked the rematch that the WBC ordered!

You are scared to produce a list,but you participated in a combat match at 50+ years of age?

This thread isn't about lists, and it's obvious you're going to avoid the whole premise of this thread. Not surprising though to be honest. If you avoid the facts you can keep the image of Vits being a "true warrior " even though he ducked Rahman, only fought one eastern euro ranked in the Top 10, quit against Byrd and never rematched even though it could have given him the lineal championship, and missed 28 top ten fighters during his time active. I just want to know why he didn't fight Rahman though. And don't go on about injuries. He was deathly enough to make a fight as soon as Rahman announced he he signed to fight another fighter...after five postponements.

[Marchegiano]

This thread isn't about lists, and it's obvious you're going to avoid the whole premise of this thread. Not surprising though to be honest. If you avoid the facts you can keep the image of Vits being a "true warrior " even though he ducked Rahman, only fought one eastern euro ranked in the Top 10, quit against Byrd and never rematched even though it could have given him the lineal championship, and missed 28 top ten fighters during his time active. I just want to know why he didn't fight Rahman though. And don't go on about injuries. He was deathly enough to make a fight as soon as Rahman announced he he signed to fight another fighter...after five postponements.

Did Vitali ever work with King?