The Greatness of Joe Frazier and an example of when the lineal was needed and came to the rescue of boxing

[billeau2]

Spell check: exercise. You're welcome!

Theb last vestige of the fallen argument: Spelling comments. I mispell alot of words... Look carefully at most of my posts. Your getting desperate now.

[billeau2]

Same is true for p4p bud.

I don't see a reason, yet, maybe because I'm just not firm on anything outside of this happened that didn't happen sort of ****, but I don't see why we all need to agree on what it is for it to have value.

I recognize others' recognition. It's cool.

Marg. Do i understand your POV? Honestly, let me know. kafkod does not think I do and if he is right let me know. Thanks.

[kafkod]

Same is true for p4p bud.

I don't see a reason, yet, maybe because I'm just not firm on anything outside of this happened that didn't happen sort of ****, but I don't see why we all need to agree on what it is for it to have value.


I recognize others' recognition. It's cool.

"Same is true for p4p bud"

Basically, yes. But the way the "lineal title" is sometimes used to sell fights and bamboozle fans is far more cynical and brazen than anything I've seen with P4P status. Eg, nobody from Bivols's team tried claiming Dmitry had won the P4P number 1 crown from Canelo. And Canelo vs Crawford isn't being sold as a P4P number 1 title fight. Not yet, anyway!

[kafkod]

Marg. Do i understand your POV? Honestly, let me know. kafkod does not think I do and if he is right let me know. Thanks.

If you understand his POV, then why don't you get wound up with him over it, the way you do with me for saying basically the same thing?

[kafkod]

Theb last vestige of the fallen argument: Spelling comments. I mispell alot of words... Look carefully at most of my posts. Your getting desperate now.

You keep telling me my reading comprehension sucks. Maybe if your spelling didn't suck I would comprehend what you were on about better?

[kafkod]

- - WBA wouldn't recognize Wlad as a title fight as I recall even though Chagaev was their in between Valuev multi years undefeated defenses champion which was ultimately how David Haye held the belt.

Ridicules to argue about corrupt stuff like this when DKing team up with the Orgs for what would be comedy if so many fighters weren't getting ripped off...

No, no ... only the alphabet orgs are corrupt. Everything around the lineal title is noble, honest, and pure as the driven snow.

[Willie Pep 229]

No, no ... only the alphabet orgs are corrupt. Everything around the lineal title is noble, honest, and pure as the driven snow.

There is no one "around the lineal title" - if it is illusional as you say then no one can have authority; no one can be corrupt without authority. So no corruption.

Try a different complaint. Corruption makes no sense.

[billeau2]

If you understand his POV, then why don't you get wound up with him over it, the way you do with me for saying basically the same thing?

He is not saying the same thing. He agrees with you on certain points and PERHAPS as a general sentiment. While his opinion can be reduced to finding the Lineal lacking his reasons and the whole nuance of what he considers regarding how the lineal compares to other titles is not the same at all. As a matter of fact many points I agree with him on.

His arguments can not be reduced to repeating "The Lineal does not exist." I frankly do not even think he believes that to be true, though I would not speak for his conclusions because: they are evolving, they are open to debate with others presently (as are mine) and he can speak for himself. You on the other hand? are reduced to critiquing spelling which really is silly considering the sheer amount of spelling errors I make in an average post.... You found... One?

But you go on believing you have the same opinions... Ok?

[billeau2]

You keep telling me my reading comprehension sucks. Maybe if your spelling didn't suck I would comprehend what you were on about better?

I don't know... You found One such error? Couldn't have been that big a deal... Stop making excuses. It is pathetic

[billeau2]

No, no ... only the alphabet orgs are corrupt. Everything around the lineal title is noble, honest, and pure as the driven snow.

Yup you really understand Marg... and align with him.... Or maybe you did not read the post where this was discussed? Guess not. Another real leap of logic here. The lineal must be pure because having 9 belts is a problem... A correlation? No! Nobody has argued any system is infallible. The belt titles from the poltiiical groups are fine when used properly, not 9 belts... Not Marius Wach as a champion... etc. Meanwhile as a separate issue, the Lineal has been insensative to the color line, to happenings in certain situations where favoritism did not equate to objectivism regarding whom was the best... The Cribb Molineaux situation for example...

Nobody has defended the lineal by claiming it was infaliable.