Jack Johnson Admits He Was Genuinely KO'd

[Anomalocaris]

I don't think anyone really believed Johnson threw this fight.


I do believe he faked the Ketchel knockdown. You can see him begin to go down before the punch reached the mark.

Oh yes and boy did Ketchel pay when Jack became genuinely furious.

[Willie Pep 229]

The two logics don't jive.

If Johnson was faking the KD why would he be angry at Ketchel for following the script?

[BKM-]

The two logics don't jive.

If Johnson was faking the KD why would he be angry at Ketchel for following the script?

Maybe he saw it coming(God knows that was one telegraphed swing for the fences) and sort of went down and acted hurt to bait Ketchel, letting him believe he had Johnson hurt and had his own guard down, so Johnson could punish Ketchel hard and quick.

[Willie Pep 229]

Maybe he saw it coming(God knows that was one telegraphed swing for the fences) and sort of went down and acted hurt to bait Ketchel, letting him believe he had Johnson hurt and had his own guard down, so Johnson could punish Ketchel hard and quick.

This is getting pretty complicated just to save Johnson from the embarrassment of a KD.

[solidman]

That's the difference with Johnson and Dempsey. Johnson fought the middleweight champion and Dempsey didn't (Greb)

[QueensburyRules]

I don't think anyone really believed Johnson threw this fight.


I do believe he faked the Ketchel knockdown. You can see him begin to go down before the punch reached the mark.

- - It was a gentlemen's agreement between 2 nongentlemen.

Ketchel broke their covenant first, so JJ returned the favor and the rest is simple history.

[Anomalocaris]

That's the difference with Johnson and Dempsey. Johnson fought the middleweight champion and Dempsey didn't (Greb)

And Ketchell was no Greb (not that anyone was).

[solidman]

And Ketchell was no Greb (not that anyone was).

Ketchel was a great fighter though.

[them_apples]

The two logics don't jive.

If Johnson was faking the KD why would he be angry at Ketchel for following the script?

there is a clip that shows he actually did fake the KD. almost like he used it as justification to lay Ketchel out. maybe they had some clause. Ketchels style would never beat Johnsons

[billeau2]

Johnson said his best conditioning was for Jeffries for which fight he was 208lbs .Seventeen pounds lighter than for Willard,plus he was 5 years younger when he fought Jeffries

Pictures of Johnson in both the Willard and Jeffries fights emphatically show the difference in conditioning and fitness of Johnson in both fights. Anyone who thinks Johnson was half as ripped for the Willard fight as he was for Jeffries,needs to follow another sport,wrestling perhaps?

I mean... Just the age difference! That is a clue.