Jack Johnson Admits He Was Genuinely KO'd

[solidman]

And Ketchell was no Greb (not that anyone was).

Ketchel was a great fighter though.

[them_apples]

The two logics don't jive.

If Johnson was faking the KD why would he be angry at Ketchel for following the script?

there is a clip that shows he actually did fake the KD. almost like he used it as justification to lay Ketchel out. maybe they had some clause. Ketchels style would never beat Johnsons

[billeau2]

Johnson said his best conditioning was for Jeffries for which fight he was 208lbs .Seventeen pounds lighter than for Willard,plus he was 5 years younger when he fought Jeffries

Pictures of Johnson in both the Willard and Jeffries fights emphatically show the difference in conditioning and fitness of Johnson in both fights. Anyone who thinks Johnson was half as ripped for the Willard fight as he was for Jeffries,needs to follow another sport,wrestling perhaps?

I mean... Just the age difference! That is a clue.

[billeau2]

That's the difference with Johnson and Dempsey. Johnson fought the middleweight champion and Dempsey didn't (Greb)

? And? Lets not belabor the obvious, Ketchel, a great fighter was no Greb (stated on the thread) and this statement is the equivalent of saying "My car mechanic is inferior because he wouldn't work on my Ducati.