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  • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - - Purt fair drug cheat and ducker as well. Multi talented...yeah!!!
    he gave your hero k a bit of a boxing lesson in k's backyard in germany in 2015 didn't he!!!
    ten years ago and queeny still watches it daily as he is a bit fond of some self loathing at bedtime!
    can't expect a man to still be great after ten years. even the great I has a bit of a pot belly these days but I still give it back to you as good queeny!
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    • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Purt fair drug cheat and ducker as well. Multi talented...yeah!!!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji6hMwaBeiM
      queeny let's have some parliamentary proceedure here, I came up hard I didn't have aol boxing moderators I came up hard I didn't have texas oil wealth!!! ha ha INNIT!!!

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      • Originally posted by solidman View Post
        He would have wiped the floor with legends like Dempsey and Marciano and Frasier. I would have him in my top 5 best heavyweights ever.
        imo Liston is probably the most overated heavyweight by knowledgeable boxing fans, and underrated by casuals.

        Liston failed nearly every real test given to him during his career. I want to say he beats Frazier, but I question Listons heart - but not Fraziers. Frazier might get busted up early but those late rounds might count for something. The thing with Liston is, on paper he's a monster but under the lights he chokes.

        Marciano knocks him out. I can't see it any other way. You got one guy who's shown he quits when the going get's tough. A guy who got knocked out by average punchers. up against a guy who never quits and hit's extremely hard.

        It may seem like Marciano fanboy - ism, but there are a lot of threads talking about Marciano right now - in my defense.
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        • Interesting post. It is true that Liston had a questionable heart.

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          • Originally posted by max baer View Post

            he gave your hero k a bit of a boxing lesson in k's backyard in germany in 2015 didn't he!!!
            ten years ago and queeny still watches it daily as he is a bit fond of some self loathing at bedtime!
            can't expect a man to still be great after ten years. even the great I has a bit of a pot belly these days but I still give it back to you as good queeny!
            - - Thanks for affirming a Purt fair drug cheat and ducker as well. Multi talented...yeah!!!

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            • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - - Thanks for affirming a Purt fair drug cheat and ducker as well. Multi talented...yeah!!!
              Funny how you claim Fury a Duckcer, but not Wlad for not rematching Sanders Or Vits Byrd. And if he's a drug cheat, doesn't that make Vits a drug cheat as well?
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              • Originally posted by them_apples View Post
                imo Liston is probably the most overated heavyweight by knowledgeable boxing fans, and underrated by casuals.

                Liston failed nearly every real test given to him during his career. I want to say he beats Frazier, but I question Listons heart - but not Fraziers. Frazier might get busted up early but those late rounds might count for something. The thing with Liston is, on paper he's a monster but under the lights he chokes.

                Marciano knocks him out. I can't see it any other way. You got one guy who's shown he quits when the going get's tough. A guy who got knocked out by average punchers. up against a guy who never quits and hit's extremely hard.

                It may seem like Marciano fanboy - ism, but there are a lot of threads talking about Marciano right now - in my defense.
                You don't like Liston because he badly beat up the small Patterson and stands in the way of your "little good man can beat bigger good man" argument.

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                • Sonny had heart.

                  Forget the Ali fights (the second of which was certainly a fix or tank job).

                  He fought through a broken jaw and a broken nose during his early/prime career.

                  The man was granite at his best.

                  He was called 'Old Stoneface' for a reason.

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                  • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                    Funny how you claim Fury a Duckcer, but not Wlad for not rematching Sanders Or Vits Byrd. And if he's a drug cheat, doesn't that make Vits a drug cheat as well?
                    - - Sanders signed a Roy Contract after Wlad where Roy tragically chose to return to LH. It was the first notable dumb move Roy ever made. Sanders went to Plan B with the scalp of Vitali who made an outstanding fight much to the ultimate demise of Sanders.

                    Sanders is a HOF fighter, but not in the current dummy IBHOF but rather in Valhalla. Y U minder no teach U timeline?

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                    • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                      - - Sanders signed a Roy Contract after Wlad where Roy tragically chose to return to LH. It was the first notable dumb move Roy ever made. Sanders went to Plan B with the scalp of Vitali who made an outstanding fight much to the ultimate demise of Sanders.

                      Sanders is a HOF fighter, but not in the current dummy IBHOF but rather in Valhalla. Y U minder no teach U timeline?
                      Sanders and Roy never signed to fight. This has already been exposed. Wlad still never sought a rematch. There was no demise of Sanders because of Vits, and Wlad STILL never sought a rematch. Like I said, your double standards are funny. Like a clown funny.

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