Why did Hagler avoid the Leonard rematch?

[JAB5239]

I think we may be in luck! I hope so (better to not speak out about what I saw) ... It would be tragic if he stopped posting because of Z... I understand Bronson's take: Too many people let the trolls run free. It gets really annoying when people reduce personal responsibility to: "I can say anything I want because no one can call me on it."

Send me a PM, I'd like to know what's going on. Bronson is a good guy, and a valuable member here.

[Butt stuff]

I don't know. Is it?

Ah. Not the brightest spark, I see.

[Butt stuff]

- - That was it in a nutshell, butt of course, OP ain't got the brains Our Creator gave to Ducks, so asks an open ended question designed to punch hot buttons of poorly studied boxing fans.

I can’t tell if he’s trolling or didn’t understand the situation, or both.

[Biledriver]

I have no idea. It's unfortunate. While Bronson was sometimes brash, he always brought the goods to the table. I've learned a lot from him, as I do most everyone else in this section.

Bronson is one of the best posters on this site.....Dr Z is, shall we say, NOT.....

[Biledriver]

Leonard offered Hagler a rematch. When Leonards people approached him about it he said to "tell Ray to get a life".

Now I don't believe this was a duck. Hagler retired and stayed that way. Had he come back and not tried to avenge, that could be called a duck.

Was he just tired of boxing? It's politics? Or did he think Ray had his number?

I personally think he was frustrated he lost the decision. An old adage in boxing was you had to beat the champ, meaning convincingly, to win the title. While i initially had him winning, after watching again i had Leonard winning. In my mind it doesnt mattrr how big or small a win is. A win is a win. Could this have played a part in why Hagler retired, or could it have been for other reasons?

Hagler was 32 at the time of the Leonard fight: Not completely over the hill, but still past-prime. I figure Hagler could read the tea leaves as well as anybody and just said "fu ck it, I'm too old for this sh it",

[GhostofDempsey]

I think he was disgusted with boxing and the politics of it. He felt he won that fight and was unjustly robbed and wouldn’t line the pockets of anymore boxing insiders.

[JAB5239]

Hagler was 32 at the time of the Leonard fight: Not completely over the hill, but still past-prime. I figure Hagler could read the tea leaves as well as anybody and just said "fu ck it, I'm too old for this sh it",

Yeah, it's not like he needed the money either and had already secured his legacy.

[JAB5239]

Ah. Not the brightest spark, I see.

Lol, bright enough to spot you trolling for my attention. Are you happy now that I've responded to you? Hope so.

[JAB5239]

I think he was disgusted with boxing and the politics of it. He felt he won that fight and was unjustly robbed and wouldn’t line the pockets of anymore boxing insiders.

Agreed.

[Willie Pep 229]

I believe Hagler decided (said) before the fight, "win or lose" he would quit the game.

He made good on his word. The Brothers Petronelle wanted him to stop so much that they offered not to take their 33% of the purse.

Hagler refused and insisted, they had come this far together and he wanted then to take their percentage. He insisted they take their percentage.

I believe, both Hagler and his retinue intended to stop after Leonard no matter what happened.

This 'legacy' thing talked about on this forum is nonsense. I doubt there has ever been a boxer who took a fight for that silly reason.

I'm sure some may have said it. But I'm sure it was just noise.

This is prize fighting.