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  • #81
    When I was in hospital I shared a ward with a friend of his, he said he was a lovely bloke but had problems.

    Before he handed Bowe his balls he was beating the living **** out of him.
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    • #82
      Originally posted by Hustle View Post
      Demetrius Andrade
      Just added him to the list.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
        I'll never get tired of mentioning Andrew Golota in this kind of "wasted potential" debates.

        The night he fought a prime Riddick Bowe, Golota was just destroying him. At that moment, he had the world in his hands, just before having Bowe's balls in the same hands a minute later.

        From then on, almost everything went bad. Golota had the skill of a great fighter, but didn't own a functioning brain. Then again, I believe he was psychologically impacted by the bad press he received for his bizarre behavior on that ring.
        Just added him to the list.

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        • #84
          I'd like to add a few more, just out of my aging memory. All of these, for different reasons, could have achieved much more than they actually did.

          Max Baer
          Buster Douglas
          David Tua
          Ricardo Mayorga
          James Toney
          John Mugabi
          Mikey Garcia

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
            I'd like to add a few more, just out of my aging memory. All of these, for different reasons, could have achieved much more than they actually did.

            Max Baer
            Buster Douglas
            David Tua
            Ricardo Mayorga
            James Toney
            John Mugabi
            Mikey Garcia
            Max Baer- I try to stay away from fighters who fought more than 70 years ago. Because i never watched their prime or their demise plus he was a champion during the great depression. I put that under "act of God or a freak accident". Nobody knew what the great depression would do or how long it would last. Unless you are referring to something else that derailed his career to gain greater heights please let me know. Are you over the age of 70 and used to watch some of his reruns ? I wouldn't add him to the list.

            Buster Douglas- Very few heavyweights would beat Tokyo Douglas. He would give any top 5 heavyweight in any era a good run for their money on that night. On that night he went super saiyan. He never managed to ever tap into that potential or will power again. Lets be honest. You only have one mom and she can only die once. On that night, he did it for his mother. The other nights, he was just Buster and thats it. Buster was a basketball player that did boxing later. He was never a boxing prospect or had high expectations. I wouldn't put him on this list. He had a great lucky night and he did it for his mother.

            David Tua- Very limited. He did the best of his abilities. Low ceiling. I put him in the same category as Tommy Morrison. Some people believed the hype, I didn't.

            Ricardo Mayorga - Kinda the same thing like Buster. He got lucky he was able to bait Vernon Forrest into a brawl. Very limited skills. I never seen potential for him in boxing. Maybe bareknuckle or ufc he could had a better ceiling for greatness.

            Matter of fact we should put Vernon Forrest on this list. He needs to be on this list. Thank you.

            James Toney- oh boy. I see why you would put Toney on this list. I understand but I will not do it. Toney is still a hall of famer and all time great. Could he had been better if he stayed in shape? Yes. I do believe that.

            John Mugabi- Debatable. I will put him on the list if others agree.

            Mikey Garcia- I totally agree!!!!! 100000%. Now this fits the bill. Had the talent, and he was highly praised during his peak but Money and bad business stopped him from being an all time great. Mikey definitely goes on this list.

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            • #86
              Mikey Garcia had great technique but no speed at all. He would not beat any fine fighter who is fast. His mind was obviously fckd up if he actually thought he could beat Spence. He was completely washed away by the decent Spence.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Mr Mitts View Post
                Mikey Garcia had great technique but no speed at all. He would not beat any fine fighter who is fast. His mind was obviously fckd up if he actually thought he could beat Spence. He was completely washed away by the decent Spence.
                I dont think Mikey believed that at all. Mikey was in boxing for the money. If you will sit out during your prime years over a bad contract you signed that let's me know he was really focus on getting the most money instead of just finishing out the contract he signed.

                If Mikey was properly managed and maybe supported more financially he probably wouldn't have to SELL his Zero (undefeated) record to Spence. It was a cash grab and he fought scared the whole fight like Charlo vs Canelo. Now look at him and Charlo now. I think Mikey went to school to become a cop. I don't think his heart was really in to boxing. The only people that believed he could beat Spence was his Mexican fan base.

                Mikey had everything in line too become the next great Mexican American fighter. HBO and Top Rank supported him highly. Now I don't remember his pay days but he had to aleast made decent money but to sit out 1-2 years over it was crazy. He should had did what floyd did and buy him self out of the contract.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Mr Mitts View Post
                  Mikey Garcia had great technique but no speed at all. He would not beat any fine fighter who is fast. His mind was obviously fckd up if he actually thought he could beat Spence. He was completely washed away by the decent Spence.
                  - - I'd say Mikey made the most out of his ability before ditching the fight game rather than risk further damage to his health from boxing.

                  Just like Gene Tunney did. They were both smarter than boxing, and btw, Dempsey too. He could've regained the title, but had little use for the way boxing treated him through Kearns and the political spectrum that denied Wills vs Dempsey...

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                  • #89
                    Mugabi really was a beast.

                    If Hagler had not had one of the most undentable chins in boxing history he would have been terminated.

                    For the first 5 rounds John boxed beautifully.

                    That sixth round effectively ended his career.

                    As for that uppercut how the **** Marvin was still standing is beyond ne.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Anomalocaris View Post
                      Mugabi really was a beast.

                      If Hagler had not had one of the most undentable chins in boxing history he would have been terminated.

                      For the first 5 rounds John boxed beautifully.

                      That sixth round effectively ended his career.

                      As for that uppercut how the **** Marvin was still standing is beyond ne.
                      I just rematched that fight today. Hagler did have an iron chin. He was also hitting ohn below the belt though. Good fight.

                      Idk why but he does seem like past fighters were more battle tested (can take a beating and give a beating ) then today's fighters.

                      I cant think about anyone today that can take a bad beating for 4 rounds then turn a switch on then give it right back.
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