Earnie Shavers,Floyd Patterson,Buddy Baer,Max Schmeling,Jersey Joe Walcott,Gene Tunney,Tyson Fury or Ken Norton do they all deserve a spot or some need to drop.
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Which one these fighters belong in the top 20 heavyweights?
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Originally posted by Anthony342
You could do it that way, head to head. Most people go by resume.
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Total body of work is the proper way to rank.
I have....
Gene Tunney, # 11
Tyson Fury, # 19
Ken Norton, # 22
Jersey Joe Walcott, # 39
Max Schmeling, # 42
Earnie Shavers, # 44
Floyd Patterson, # 59
Very, very elite professionals, all.
Buddy Baer I place lower. Did you mean his Brother Max?Anthony342
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View PostTotal body of work is the proper way to rank.
I have....
Gene Tunney, # 11
Tyson Fury, # 19
Ken Norton, # 22
Jersey Joe Walcott, # 39
Max Schmeling, # 42
Earnie Shavers, # 44
Floyd Patterson, # 59
Very, very elite professionals, all.
Buddy Baer I place lower. Did you mean his Brother Max?
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View PostTotal body of work is the proper way to rank.
I have....
Gene Tunney, # 11
Tyson Fury, # 19
Ken Norton, # 22
Jersey Joe Walcott, # 39
Max Schmeling, # 42
Earnie Shavers, # 44
Floyd Patterson, # 59
Very, very elite professionals, all.
Buddy Baer I place lower. Did you mean his Brother Max?
Unless by total body of work you are transposing his Lt Heavyweight work onto his heavyweight ranking?
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Originally posted by WillieWild114 View PostWhy wouldn’t Ken Norton be top 20 after he beat Ali ?
But nobody would suggest that Norton was as good as Ali because of that.
The reason I place Kenny at 22 is dues strictly to the total body of work, in comparison, compiled by:
1. Muhammad Ali, USA
2. Joe Louis, USA
3. Jack Dempsey, USA
4. Jack Johnson, USA
5. George Foreman, USA
6. Larry Holmes, USA
7. Lennox Lewis, England
8. Sonny Liston, USA
9. Mike Tyson, USA
10. Sam Langford, USA
11. Gene Tunney, USA
12. Harry Wills, USA
13. Rocky Marciano, USA
14. Joe Jeanette, USA
15. Joe Frazier, USA
16. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine
17. Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine
18. James J. Jeffries, USA
19. Tyson Fury, England
20. Ezzard Charles, USA
21. John L. Sullivan
And keep in mind this.
The micrometers between these top all-time fighters can't even be "seen" with the naked eye.
Being ranked 22, for example; from a pool of 44,930 all-time big boys is a pretty lofty compliment.
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Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post
If total body of work is the way to rank, then how does Tunney end up 11 for you all time? He has 7 total fights in the heavyweight division, and only a few of those were against high quality opponents.
Unless by total body of work you are transposing his Lt Heavyweight work onto his heavyweight ranking?
Tunney was far more than the dancing master who befuddled Dempsey. Tunney was a vicious fighter who brought it.
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