The Great Debates - Valuble Posting or Not?

[Willow The Wisp]

I am nobody special, and I'm NOT always found traveling on the high road either.

...But one can't help but notice that heated arguments and insults...which are NEVER going to conclude with a face to face discussion / Ass whoopin', are fairly common around here.

I've seen some pretty great posters turned into angry critters, or become banned and therefore disconnected from a sometimes valuable body of posting & research.

For some, its really does appear to be the main rush they're after by turning up on these boards.

Occasionally these heated debates force the combatants to really dig deep in their research to "prove" their point, and that can be an interesting byproduct of the misbehavior. Ivich was pretty well known for that with Dr Z his cheif antagonist, but there are certainly others.

But most of the back n' forth between posters, especially when it begins to peel away from solid boxing talk; I find SUPREMELY BORING, and I skip it.

I've found this board to be no better, no worse than others.

Question is: How many of us are entertained by threads getting hijacked into those "debates"?

And, how many of us a put off by it?

[JAB5239]

If it doesn't directly involve me I skip over it more times than not. I'd suggest everyone skip over it when it is me, if the thread has gone sideways and digressed into something it was never meant to be. I do get put off by it, even when I do it, but understand it is human nature. If we were all sitting together in a bar having these discussions I doubt they would ever turn into anything but banter and debate. That fact we cannot see nor know one another outside of this forum makes us (many of us) forget our social etiquette. I don't think I would get into some of the flame wars in person if it were face to face not out of fear, but because I was raised better than that. The internet makes us forget that sometimes.

[Biledriver]

If it doesn't directly involve me I skip over it more times than not. I'd suggest everyone skip over it when it is me, if the thread has gone sideways and digressed into something it was never meant to be. I do get put off by it, even when I do it, but understand it is human nature. If we were all sitting together in a bar having these discussions I doubt they would ever turn into anything but banter and debate. That fact we cannot see nor know one another outside of this forum makes us (many of us) forget our social etiquette. I don't think I would get into some of the flame wars in person if it were face to face not out of fear, but because I was raised better than that. The internet makes us forget that sometimes.

It's not you. All you're doing is responding to the people making the garbage posts, or, in the case of Dr Z (or whatever the hell his name is) hija cking threads with unrelated bullsh*t. Your posts are fine.

Ps. "hija cking" is censored now? What in the actual?

[K--]

I am nobody special, and I'm NOT always found traveling on the high road either.

...But one can't help but notice that heated arguments and insults...which are NEVER going to conclude with a face to face discussion / Ass whoopin', are fairly common around here.

I've seen some pretty great posters turned into angry critters, or become banned and therefore disconnected from a sometimes valuable body of posting & research.

For some, its really does appear to be the main rush they're after by turning up on these boards.

Occasionally these heated debates force the combatants to really dig deep in their research to "prove" their point, and that can be an interesting byproduct of the misbehavior. Ivich was pretty well known for that with Dr Z his cheif antagonist, but there are certainly others.

But most of the back n' forth between posters, especially when it begins to peel away from solid boxing talk; I find SUPREMELY BORING, and I skip it.

I've found this board to be no better, no worse than others.

Question is: How many of us are entertained by threads getting hijacked into those "debates"?

And, how many of us a put off by it?

If we had actual human moderation, a rule for thread derailment would be really useful.

[DeeMoney]

Bums me out when people takeover a good conversation and turn it into childish arguments. Its weird to me when grown men insult each other online, I couldnt look myself in the mirror as an adult if I had to live a life where I went around insulting random internet people.

It blows my mind how few adults know how to act like grown ups.

[Biledriver]

Bums me out when people takeover a good conversation and turn it into childish arguments. Its weird to me when grown men insult each other online, I couldnt look myself in the mirror as an adult if I had to live a life where I went around insulting random internet people.

It blows my mind how few adults know how to act like grown ups.

It's mostly middle-age whte dudes with no lives. Bitter Gen-Xers who believed the bullsh* t their Boomer parents told them, then pissed away their prime years and have nothing to show for it. So now they're reliving their gradeschool years cuz reasons

[Kid Cauliflower]

I find many flame arguments entertaining. Teasing Rockin' about Coleman gave me some good laughs but I never participated. You cannot have a "real" conversation when everyone tells you what you may and may not say. In real conversations people get angry or impatient, they say what they feel.

That is how conversations work. So is digressing from the subject. I never saw a conversation that stayed on topic for 12 hours.

If you wanted to know what bothers me I could easily make a list, but what would be the use?

Let me put it this way is there anything that would be on all our lists? Yes, I think so.

[DeeMoney]

Sorry Kid Cauliflower, this was supposed to be a response to your previous comment, but I misplaced it...


I think its less about digressions and more about insulting others as opposed to discussing a debating a point. Often times it appears as if posters care more about winning an insult battle that is irrelevant to the discussion than letting their argument win the case.

Thats what I feel is childish, I struggle to understand a grown man who feels the need to insult some internet poster. Or who feels that their manhood has been proven because they typed better insults at another internet guy. Are their wives impressed by this, is it something they tell the grandkids about? I dunno, maybe they do

[Willie Pep 229]

It's mostly middle-age whte dudes with no lives. Bitter Gen-Xers who believed the bullsh* t their Boomer parents told them, then pissed away their prime years and have nothing to show for it. So now they're reliving their gradeschool years cuz reasons

WARNING: Over analyzing the "generations" below.

The going complaint isn't that the boomers BSed Gen X with promises of utopia.

Instead the boomers ignored their children's upbringing while pursuing "themselves." (Doing their own thing.)

The term "latched key child" was coined for Gen X because of this neglect. They were the kids, where both parents worked, and spent their afternoon eating cold cereal out of the box, and watching superhero cartoons.

Earlier on (postwar America) it was the boomers who were BSed by the GI generation (their fathers) who envisioned for them a perfect society, one (not unsurprisingly) they couldn’t deliver.

Boomers felt deceived, Gen Xers ignored. Both came out embittered, but with different complains.

The middle-aged Xers are more aggressive because they were given less of a moral compass to work with. Mostly ignored by parents and society, they hold an individualistic survival attitude, separated from a sense of community.

It is why so many are Trump supporters.

[Biledriver]

WARNING: Over analyzing the "generations" below.

The going complaint isn't that the boomers BSed Gen X with promises of utopia.

Instead the boomers ignored their children's upbringing while pursuing "themselves." (Doing their own thing.)

The term "latched key child" was coined for Gen X because of this neglect. They were the kids, where both parents worked, and spent their afternoon eating cold cereal out of the box, and watching superhero cartoons.

Earlier on (postwar America) it was the boomers who were BSed by the GI generation (their fathers) who envisioned for them a perfect society, one (not unsurprisingly) they couldn’t deliver.

Boomers felt deceived, Gen Xers ignored. Both came out embittered, but with different complains.

The middle-aged Xers are more aggressive because they were given less of a moral compass to work with. Mostly ignored by parents and society, they hold an individualistic survival attitude, separated from a sense of community.

It is why so many are Trump supporters.

I AM a middle-aged GenXer (I was born when Lyndon Johnson was president: I'm an early Xer). I grew up with the Yuppies who had smoke blown up their a ss about grinding their way to the "American Dream".....only to find there was no American dream, only grind. And like the Boomers they have an attitude of "my life su cked so nothing should ever get better for anyone else".