Top 20 heavyweights all time

[Biledriver]

Bye troll with 20 total posts. Way to have have an agenda against somebody who said nothing about you. Suddenly you name appears? Why isn't that a surprise. Odds are you are just an alt, and I typically don't talk to them.

My best guess is you will be gone soon. You first post was 06-10-2024 according to a search. I wonder who was banned around that time

You can deflect all you want and and use pathetic tactics that normal human beings stopped using by the second grade, but it doesn’t change the fact that you consistently denigrate fighters (usually of the pi gmented variety) and start petty fights in pursuit of an obvious agenda. You’ll eventually let the veil slip (your kind always does) as you have done before, hence your permaban from ESB. Your record is clear, and you’ll end up in the same place you always do (until you return under a new account). Rinse and repeat. Oh, and btw, if you’re bidding me “goodbye” because you "don’t talk to them", feel free to put me on ignore. I really don’t GAF.

[Biledriver]

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That’s not bad list at all. I think Lennox is way too high (though he belongs on the list), but most of the rest is just quibbling over the order. I actually think it’s a better list than Cliff’s, which is shocking.

[Willow The Wisp]

You could argue....(if you wanted to), that Usyk's best work was done at Cruiserweight. (As you could, technically for several earlier modern era heavyweights).
You could point out that Joshua never really got "even" with Ruiz, and that Wilder used Fury up; and, that Dubois scored a defacto KO over him.

[cfang]

My top ten

Ali
louis
johnson
holmes
foreman
holyfield
lewis
frazier
wlad/vitali
tyson

if including active fighters I’d put usyk at 8 as he beat the two best heavys of his era.

Dempsey not in due to not fighting wills and also a handful of defences against people he should have beaten easily. Tunney only had a few fights at heavy. Rocky handful of defences against older boxers.

aj and fury would be in 10-20.

cheated a bit by putting in the k’s in the same position. Didn’t really rate either at the time but were the two best of their era and both won a lot of title fights.

charles best at lt heavy.

liston a quite thin heavy resume and tainted by the Ali fights.

trying to be objective on this list. Hard I know. A lot of my favourite heavys not on here.

[JAB5239]

You're such a turd. You still haven't provided the newspaper article you said you read that had Monxon and Fernandez fighting in December of 1966. Were you lying? Because you were clearly wrong. So until you answer that and post your own top 20 heavyweights you get nothing from me. You're a troll, it's why you were banned from ESB and need to use an alt here. Now get out of my thread. This is for people looking to discuss boxing, not troll.

Still waiting for the top 20 heavyweights all time.

[Kid Cauliflower]

As a heavyweight Usyk has already proven more than is normal for the time frame. Outside of beating Fury in a rematch, I don't see much in the way of legacy-building opponents ahead for him to enhance his AT status. He is bound to only have a few fights left in him. For best legacy value who should he fight next if he beats Fury a second time?

[Bronson66]

As a heavyweight Usyk has already proven more than is normal for the time frame. Outside of beating Fury in a rematch, I don't see much in the way of legacy-building opponents ahead for him to enhance his AT status. He is bound to only have a few fights left in him. For best legacy value who should he fight next if he beats Fury a second time?

The only guy out there who can polish his rep is Parker imo ,he, I think will be a difficult fight for the Ukrainian.

[Kid Cauliflower]

The only guy out there who can polish his rep is Parker imo ,he, I think will be a difficult fight for the Ukrainian.

I guess that one can be billed as boring vs semi boring. Unless Parker has a magic wand he does not stand much chance AISI. Too slow, which happens to be Usyk's tr ump suit, no outstanding skills, just kind of slow and decently solid. But the field is so thin. Even Wilder would draw more money. Andy Ruiz would be more entertaining. Zwang would be too slow.

[JAB5239]

Where would you rank Louis and Ali pound for pound? I think they'd still be top 5 I'm guessing.

P4p neither would rank in my top 10. And while I personally rate Louis the greatest heavyweight and most technically skilled, I think Ali is better p4p. I think his speed and reflexes translate better. I think of it kind of like Louis is Juan Manual Marquez and Ali is Manny Pacquiao. Both great, but Paquiaos skillset allowed him to do more.

[Dr. Z]

jab5239

I still don't have answers to questions. Answer them and I will project a top 20 list from 1880 to current just for you. Deal?

NOW, my questions which you have avoided for over a week. I want you thoughts not some else's.

Why is Jack Johnson your top five? He lost vs. mature men in Klon***e, Griffin, , Choyski, and Hart. He lost to the best person he faced in his lineal title matches in Willard, did not give a title match to the best 3-5 men around ( Langford, Jeannette, McVey, McCarthy, and Smith ) and drew a lot. Yet he is in you top 5? Please explain this to me in detail.

Where would you place Usyk if he retried tomorrow? In your top 20?

Liston's resume of wins lesser than many people that you rate below him and he barley defend his title. So few title defense and a lower quality of wins, why is he rated this high? Please explain in detail.

I seldom see Tyson rated above Holyfield who beat him twice. Why do you do it? Holyfield did far better vs. opponents that Tyson and he fought. Lewis, and Douglas for example. Please explain this to me, in detail.



Let's keep the thread topic and pollute other threads.