Greatest Ring General?

[DeeMoney]

I thought about Whitaker, definitely one of the top ten defensive fighters all time. I’m not sure he really controlled the tempo though, he was more of a counter puncher who let his opponent set the pace and come to him. Whitaker’s defensive style was very similar to Dempsey. I’ve posted comparison videos that demonstrate their defensive prowess and they look very similar in footwork, ducking, slipping bob/weave, etc.

So can that be a form of ring generalship?

[QueensburyRules]

Obviously? as compared to Loma for example?

- - No, not compared to Ginsberg and Kerouac…

[billeau2]

- - No, not compared to Ginsberg and Kerouac…

wow that just slays me... Everytime....

It is just your such an idiot you overlook things... Not my fault. How is your opinion obvious? Usually like 99% of time your opinion is absurd! I mean really... sheesh.

[Willie Pep 229]

I never understood Queen's "Ginsberg and Kerouac" insult.

Just a beat poet and a an early "influencer" (before we coined the term.)

But I don't think: their works are that bad; that a comparison works as an insult.

[Kid Cauliflower]

I never understood Queen's "Ginsberg and Kerouac" insult.

Just a beat poet and a an early "influencer" (before we coined the term.)

But I don't think: their works are that bad; that a comparison works as an insult.

Both pretty mediocre IMO for what is treated as world-class.

[Bronson66]

If we are to define ring generalship as which fighter is controlling the action, the tempo, and making the fight be fought how they want to. Then who is the greatest ring general of all time?

Is it an aggressive fighter (Armstrong), a defensive type (Mayweather or Pep), a counter puncher (Moore) or someone who is a mix of skills?

Archie Moore fits the bill for me.

[QueensburyRules]

I never understood Queen's "Ginsberg and Kerouac" insult.

Just a beat poet and a an early "influencer" (before we coined the term.)

But I don't think: their works are that bad; that a comparison works as an insult.

- - Billy a beat random streaming poster instead of a poet don’t you know it?

[Kid Cauliflower]

If defense if a requirement, how about Locche? Or is he not aggressive enough?

One of the qualification might be actually fighting in your fights. I appreciate Locche's artistry but he was a freak show.

[billeau2]

If defense if a requirement, how about Locche? Or is he not aggressive enough?

Yeah... Locche to me was responsive, reactive in his approach, not really aggressive enough to control the fight

[The D3vil]

Of guys I've seen in my lifetime, I'd go with Floyd Mayweather Jr. & Bernard Hopkins.

I've never watched a fight with either where I felt that they were out of control.

Usually, they were mentally in control of all of their fights.

All-time, I'd be tempted to go with Muhammad Ali, who knew how to mentally fxck his opponent & demoralize them fighting off the back foot until they were adequately fxcked & he could finish them.