Greatest Ring General?

[Bronson66]

Of guys I've seen in my lifetime, I'd go with Floyd Mayweather Jr. & Bernard Hopkins.

I've never watched a fight with either where I felt that they were out of control.

Usually, they were mentally in control of all of their fights.

All-time, I'd be tempted to go with Muhammad Ali, who knew how to mentally fxck his opponent & demoralize them fighting off the back foot until they were adequately fxcked & he could finish them.

Never saw Monzon out of control of a fight.

[billeau2]

I never understood Queen's "Ginsberg and Kerouac" insult.

Just a beat poet and a an early "influencer" (before we coined the term.)

But I don't think: their works are that bad; that a comparison works as an insult.

His insults are much like the sand castles he builds up as strong stable structures, when making a point on the boards. Like the sand castles? as long as water, or as long as logic does not enter a conversation, Queen B is right.

[JAB5239]

His insults are much like the sand castles he builds up as strong stable structures, when making a point on the boards. Like the sand castles? as long as water, or as long as logic does not enter a conversation, Queen B is right.

Unfortunately for him there is always a tsunami of evidence to prove him wrong.

[them_apples]

If we are to define ring generalship as which fighter is controlling the action, the tempo, and making the fight be fought how they want to. Then who is the greatest ring general of all time?

Is it an aggressive fighter (Armstrong), a defensive type (Mayweather or Pep), a counter puncher (Moore) or someone who is a mix of skills?

Robinson, Armstrong (as you said) Ali, Gene Tunney, Whitaker, Loche

[billeau2]

So not a ring general then?

Not a ring general... Heres an interesting aside, clue. Personality. He was a free spirit, go which way the wind blows... Generally that type of behavior predisposes one to traits carrying over into the ring. Ali was another one... He was an improv guy, make adjustments as needed, let me try this, or that... Not really a general in the ring. Compare that to someone like Hopkins (someone mentioned him) who sets traps, tries to impose himself all the time, a guy who controls the ring in his approach. Outside the ring, Hopkins is disciplined, |While Loche chain smoked, bernard ate food that was tasteless to be better... See how the traits transfer?

[billeau2]

Unfortunately for him there is always a tsunami of evidence to prove him wrong.

Thats ok... One of these days he will stop snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[Kid Cauliflower]

His insults are much like the sand castles he builds up as strong stable structures, when making a point on the boards. Like the sand castles? as long as water, or as long as logic does not enter a conversation, Queen B is right.

It sounds like bullshit, but I heard the queen say something true once. He said Canada is colder than Mexico.

[billeau2]

It sounds like bullshit, but I heard the queen say something true once. He said Canada is colder than Mexico.

And then he said Mexico would be colder but the president sold the contract to own the country to the Narco *********s.

[Biledriver]

And then he said Mexico would be colder but the president sold the contract to own the country to the Narco *********s.

[Kid Cauliflower]

And then he said Mexico would be colder but the president sold the contract to own the country to the Narco *********s.

Queen still believes if farmers will just plow more they will get the rain they need..